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by John W. Loftus

Lewis (with regard to "tamed" animals), Robert Wennberg, Jay McDaniel, John

  E Haught, Christopher Southgate, Jiirgen Moltmann, and Keith Ward, who

  claims for instance that: "Immortality for animals as well as humans, is a

  necessary condition of any acceptable theodicy"65 Jurgen Moltmann claimed of

  an animal resurrection that: "If we were to surrender [such a] hope for as much

  as one single creature, for us God would not be God."66

  The reason why Christopher Southgate believes all types of animals will go to

  heaven is because of (1) "specific scriptural texts," (2) "the conception that

  human life is richest when in the presence of other creatures," and (3) the need to

  "marry the evident lack of blessedness in the lives of many creatures."67 I doubt

  that the first two reasons have any bearing on the existence of a heaven for

  animals (or humans for that matter). Nonetheless, how can three billion years of

  animal suffering just to fill heaven with all of those resurrected animals be

  morally justified? If heaven is meant to compensate or reward sentient creatures

  for their sufferings on earth, then this does not morally justify their sufferings.

  Otherwise anyone can torture any sentient creature, including another human

  being, and simply compensate them for their sufferings. Rewarding animals in a

  heaven made for them simply does not make their sufferings on earth morally

  justifiable.

  There are also some significant problems with regard to an animal heaven.

  What kinds of bodies will each creature have in heaven? Will a bear or a shark or

  an eagle still be carnivorous? Will a mosquito or leech still need to suck blood?

  Since their bodies have a direct bearing on who they are, if they lack these

  bodies will they be the same creatures in heaven? Will they also need to live in

  the same kind of habitat? Will there be both cold and hot regions in heaven? Will

  there be wetlands and deserts? Mountains and oceans? Will all species of

  animals even be in heaven, or just a select few, Lewis's "tamed animals"? Would

  we really want scorpions, alligators, ticks, snakes, spiders, and skunks in heaven

  with us? Will all parasites be there? What rational criteria can distinguish

  between animals that will be in heaven from those that aren't there? Or would

  there be separate heavens for each species? As far as I can tell, a heaven with all

  creatures in it would look like the actual world.

  Southgate admits these types of questions are "difficult" ones. He writes that it

  is "very hard to imagine any form of being a predator that nevertheless does not

  `hurt or destroy' on the `holy mountain' of God (Isaiah 11:9). What could the life

  of a predator look like in the absence of the second law of thermodynamics, and

  the imperative of ingesting ordered energy to ward off the ever-present slide into

  decay?" According to him these kinds of questions are the ones "theologians can

  never resolve, any more than we can say what would be fulfillment for the

  parasitic organisms that so exercised Darwin, or for the bacteria and viruses that

  only thrive as pathogens."68 All he can basically do is quote fromJohn E

  Haught, who said: "it is not beyond reason to trust that [God's] eternal care could

  also transform local cosmic contradictions into a wider harmony of contrasts,

  that is, into an unfathomable depth of beauty, and that our own destiny beyond

  death admits of conscious enjoyment of this beauty as well."69 But we're on this

  side of heaven, and on this side we want to know how those "cosmic

  contradictions" can be reasonably resolved before we can believe that there is a

  heaven for them (or us) in the first place. Southgate and Haught cannot simply

  say God can do these things without offering us a reasonable explanation for

  how this can happen. After all, Haught is the one who called them cosmic

  contradictions in the first place.

  OPTION SEVEN

  This option is actually a related set of answers combing several different

  Christian options to the problem best argued for by Michael J. Murray. He

  doesn't necessarily accept all of the answers he offers in his book, Nature Red in

  Tooth and Claw, some of which are ultimately inconsistent, but he cannot rule

  them out either. So I'll just deal with what I consider his best combination of

  answers.

  Murray suggests that it is intrinsically good for God to create a universe that

  begins from a state of chaos and leads up to order rather than instantaneously

  created by fiat, and that such a manner of creating is an outweighing good of the

  sufferings it produces. In Murray's view, the emergence of human beings like us

  in an environment like ours is going to require "a spectrum of precursor

  organisms with increasingly more complex mental capabilities." He continues,

  "In order to have organisms which, like us, are capable of intellectual reflection,

  deliberation, agency, morally significant action, etc., there must first be less-

  complex organisms which have only more primitive capabilities such as the

  ability to experience pleasure and pain, or sentience."70

  He suggests it is good that human beings exist in a regular, law-like

  environment where human soul making is possible and where they have freedom

  to exercise it. In such an environment pain and suffering "will be inevitable for

  corporal, sentient beings," and as such is, "required to preserve the integrity of

  sentient physical organisms engaged in intentional actions."71 Additionally, he

  says it's quite reasonable to think human beings living in such an environment

  "will be essentially dependent on nonhuman animals in a variety of ways. If they

  are not necessary for food, they are at least a necessary part of an ecosystem in

  much the same way they seem to be in the actual world; i.e., for spreading pollen

  and seeds, for replenishing atmospheric carbon dioxide, and so on. For these and

  other reasons, embodied physical humans cannot live without animals," while

  the animals that exist are well-suited for a meaningful existence in this

  environment and they may experience an eternal future as well.72

  Murray also argues that divine hiddenness is a requirement for morally

  significant human freedom, so he would expect that we cannot know all of God's

  reasons for the sufferings of this world. But he also rejects Kenneth Miller and

  Michael Corey's arguments for divine hiddenness when they claim that if God

  had created by fiat a frilly formed universe six to ten thousand years ago, it

  would make God's existence so evident and obvious that creatures would no

  longer have significant moral freedom.73 Against them both Murray argues it's

  hard to believe that the sufferings of animals throughout geological time are to

  be preferred over a scenario where God simply introduced "deceptive evidence"

  misleading us to conclude the universe is much older than it is without such

  suffering. He also argues that prior to 1859, when Darwin published the On the

  Origin of Species, vast numbers of people actually did believe the universe was

  created by fiat a few thousand years ago, and that this did not significantly affect

  their moral freedom.74

  Murray charges that in order to dispute his claims the skeptic must give a
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  detailed description of a world that has at least as good or a better balance of

  good over natural evil than the actual one contains. According to him, attempting

  to do this "seems hopeless." It would require an account of the world whereby

  any suggested alteration "could be pulled off without incurring the cost of a

  worse overall balance." It is this, he claims, that "cannot be done."75

  In a way, Murray's proposal is not unlike Dinesh D'Souza's claim with regard

  to why there are earthquakes like the underwater one that created the 2004

  Indonesian tsunami, slaughtering over a quarter of a million people and millions

  of animals.76 The answer D'Souza proffered is that without these earthquakes

  our planet couldn't support creatures like us.

  D'Souza's answer assumes a natural causeand-effect world without divine

  interference. However, the question is whether this answer is what we'd expect

  to find based upon a theistic supposition, and the answer is a resounding no,

  given what believers claim about an omni-God.

  In the same way, Murray is asking critics to provide a detailed natural

  description of a world at least as good as or better than the existing one, without

  as much suffering. If I could do that, then such a world would be a different one

  with different natural laws producing a different ecosystem, which would

  produce different life forms, depending upon how radical of a deviation it is

  from the actual one. If Murray wants a natural description of a better world with

  the present life forms in it, this probably cannot be done precisely because he's

  asking for a natural explanation given the existing set of natural laws. This

  present natural world is the only one we know and the only one that could

  produce the life forms that presently exist in it, that is, until we get our hands on

  the right kinds of technologies to produce a better natural world. Richard Carrier

  tells us about what we have accomplished with these technologies: "No thanks to

  God, we got rid of his damned murderous floods, with dams, levies, and

  channels. What floods did that was of use, we then did with irrigation

  technology without all the pain and murder."77

  Murray needs to understand that the question isn't whether I could provide a

  detailed natural description of a better world. The real question is whether an

  omniscient God could do so, and it would seem that he could. To simply respond

  that because God is omniscient he knows how to create a perfectly good world

  doesn't cut it. For it begs the question of whether God is omniscient, and I can

  indeed criticize his socalled creative handiwork, just like I can criticize the poor

  construction of a house even though I don't know enough to build one myself.

  Besides, I see nothing in the world that could not be bettered by God through

  perpetual miracles. As David Hume wrote, the ordering of the world by natural

  laws "seems nowise necessary to a very perfect Being."78 I call this the

  Perpetual Miracle Objection. I wonder if Christian theists have really thought

  through the implications of a God who prefers this present set of natural laws

  with its sufferings over constant divine, miraculous maintenance. Is their

  omnipotent God lazy or something? What is there that is more valuable to God

  about this present ecosystem that takes precedence over our sufferings? There is

  no moral parity here at all, just as Murray argued that there's no moral parity

  between the sufferings of animals through evolutionary time, and a God who

  introduces "deceptive evidence" to mislead us to think the universe is much

  older without so much intense suffering.

  God could have created us much differently-easily. I've previously suggested

  that God could've created all creatures as vegetarians. ButJames A. Keller argues

  these types of suggestions aren't convincing "because they are inevitably

  incomplete":

  They are suggestions about how some features or natural laws might be

  changed, but they do not specify a complete set of features and natural

  laws, so we cannot gain a complete conception of what life would be like in

  a world operating in accordance with the suggested natural laws. Therefore,

  we cannot begin to determine whether there would be a better balance of

  good over evil in the new world than in this one. (For example, if all the

  animals in the world were vegetarians, one wonders what would keep their

  populations in check so as to mitigate overcrowding and mass starvation

  subsequent upon overgrazing.) Moreover, humans are not competent to

  compare the overall balance of good and evil in our world with the balance

  in a world with different natural laws.79

  Contrary to Keller, God could have made fruit trees, tomatoes, carrots, grape

  vines, blueberry bushes, corn stalks, bananas, wheat, barley, and corn to grow as

  plentiful as weeds do today in areas where they are needed, or he could have

  changed our diets. And if for some reason this isn't enough, then God could've

  created us such that the process of photosynthesis would feed us off of the sun

  itself. Barring that, I see no reason why any creature has to eat at all, since God

  could perform a perpetual miracle that would provide us all with miraculously

  created nutrients inside our bodies throughout our lives. If he did this, no

  creature would ever starve to death. Since this is so, God would not even need to

  create any animals at all.

  I see no reason why we need animals for clothes, transportation, work, or play.

  Clothes made from linen or cotton rather than from wool would do just fine until

  we invented synthetic materials. Prior to the automobile our legs would've been

  sufficient to get us places, or God could have created wings in addition to our

  arms that could be used for transportation. I see no reason why God would not

  have told us how to invent the combustion engine or synthetic materials anyway,

  if needed. And we wouldn't need oxen or horses to plow the land if we didn't

  need to eat.80 God could also control any overpopulation by reducing our

  mating cycles in the first place (which is a much better method of doing so than

  natural disasters after the fact, anyway). Human beings would still have to work

  for a living, since we'd want a good home with the comforts of life. Cities would

  still need to be built and maintained. With more time on our hands we could

  meditate, pray, and focus on raising our families. We could do more traveling,

  and be better educated. We could pursue our hobbies or engage in sporting

  activities. And if God had done this we wouldn't know any differently.

  But if there were no meat eaters of any kind, then what would happen to dead

  carcasses, Keller might ask. They decompose into nothing because of the help of

  scavenger birds, like vultures, and parasites, like maggots, (although God could

  have designed all bodies to dissolve naturally by innate chemical reactions once

  dead). I see nothing problematic with the existence of meat-eating scavengers

  who never kill any other creature to eat (they would be the only creatures who

  were not vegetarians in such a world). They only feed on carcasses that have

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  Furthermore, if God did these kinds of perpetual miracles, then scientists

  would not be able to explain as many things naturally, which in turn would be a

  good thing for believers. The God of the Gaps defense would be given a boost.

  I've already explained in some detail why a world that couldn't be explained by

  natural science would help me to believe, anyway.81 And such a world would

  not significantly affect morally significant human freedom, just as Murray

  argued that an unexplainable universe created by fiat spontaneously a few

  thousand years ago did not do so prior to the rise of modern science.

  I see no reason at all why a perfectly good, omnipotent God would choose to

  create through a long evolutionary process such as we find in this world, unless

  we either radically alter what it means for him to be perfectly good or for him to

  be omnipotent, especially since he wants us to believe. The best explanation for

  the world of animal and human suffering is therefore evolutionarily natural

  selection, where nature is red in tooth and claw, precisely because this is how the

  fittest survive. The God hypothesis is no solution for what we see in this world.

  OPTION EIGHT

  The last option is the Ignorance Defense, which I've dealt with before (see

  note).82 Christian apologist C. S. Lewis punts to that option when he wrote that

  the problem of animal pain "is outside the range of our knowledge. God has

  given us data which enable us, in some degree, to understand our own suffering:

  He has given us no such data about beasts. We know neither why they were

  made nor what they are, and everything we say about them is speculative."83

  Wennberg says when all is said and done his suggested solutions are mere

  "possibilities ... providing faith with options that it can at least tentatively

  embrace as it struggles with the problem of animal suffering."84 Echoing

  Wennberg, Stewart Goetz argued with regard to the issue of animal suffering:

  [It] is reasonable for the theist to be a defender and answer these questions

  with "I do not know," because the matter is one that lies outside our

  cognitive purview. One thing that is important to understand is why it is

  beyond our ken. The explanation for this ignorance has to do with our lack

  of knowledge of both a beast's nature and the purpose for which a beast

  exists.85

  Granted, C. S. Lewis and others offered some reasons for thinking animal pain

  is not divine cruelty, but in the end they punt to ignorance. Lewis, for instance,

  offers two reasons in defense of his Christian view. The first reason is a

  deductive one unrelated to the evidence itself. He writes, "From the doctrine that

  God is good we may confidently deduce that the appearance of reckless divine

  cruelty in the animal kingdom is an illusion." However, I can easily reverse this

  deduction. I deduce that from the evidence of animal suffering there is no good

  God. Lewis's second reason is an argument by analogy. Lewis thinks he has

  previously offered good reasons why human pain is not divine cruelty. He claims

  the success of these arguments about human pain make it easier to believe

  animal pain is not divine cruelty either, even if he cannot specifically say why

  animals suffer. I, however, have argued that there is no satisfactory solution to

  human suffering,86 so if my arguments succeed, as I think they do, there is no

  reason to think there is any good solution to animal pain either. Having

  mentioned these two reasons, Lewis admits: "After that, everything is

  guesswork." 87 And that's all he has left with, guesswork, since neither he nor

  anyone else can specifically answer this problem. A religion that can only stand

  on such dubious guesswork is not a religion we have any epistemic right to

 

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