Now honestly when I read Muslims science claims in the Qur'an I feel sad for them, and in same time it make me angry, because I always I ask my self if these are people who love God, why do try make us believe in their god by make up lies?
If we read together the Qur'an shall notice easy the deception in the above claim. 1. First Mary already giving birth and then after the delivery, she heard a voice from her underneath, telling her not to worry your lord provided you a spring of water underneath, and she have the palm tree above her to eat from.
2. The dates is good for giving birth this is true but the woman need to start eating for few month before his delivery day. We quote “Women who ate dates daily during their ninth months were less likely than nondate eaters to need medication to start labor or to help it keep progressing, a new study published in the Journal of Obstetrics and Gynaecology found. They were also more dilated upon arrival at the hospital and labored seven hours less.” click here to read more http://www.fitpregnancy.com/pregnancy/labordelivery/three-surprising-tips-easier-labor
3. Did he say “Allah's advice to Maryam”? That is the most idiotic claim I ever heard from a Muslim, because the one is talking in the verse was talking from underneath her, Mary is in the top of Allah?, from his translation I quote “A voice called out to her from under her”
4. Therefor this is can't be Allah then who?, The fact the absurd thing about the Qur'an, that until now no Muslim able to give an answer who was it because Qur'an is meant to be the book of confusion, the Pearson or the voice was talking from underneath of Mary, some say it was Jesus, others said its Jibrel, but this is the first time ever I see a Muslim announce its Allah.
5. The logic say, it's Jesus because she is giving birth and as Quran proclaimed that Jesus spoke when right after his birth,as in Qur'an 19:29 “Then she pointed to him. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?"
6. To show you how confused Muslims are about it let read this translation of Muhsin Khan, Qur'an 19:24 “Then [the babe 'Iesa (Jesus) or Jibrael (Gabriel)] cried unto her from below her, saying: "Grieve not! Your Lord has provided a water stream under you;”
7. F rom Ibn Kathir we quote, (Then cried unto her from below her,) "This is referring to `Isa bin Maryam.'' moreover, `Abd Alur-Razaq narrated from Ma`mar that Qatadah said that Al-Hasan said, "This is referring to her (Mary)son (`Isa).'' This is also one of the two opinions reported from Sa`eed bin Jubayr -- that it was her son, `Isa, speaking.
8. So she was told after Jesus birth not before it to eat dates 9. But the only Pearson among a billion Muslim who said its Allah speaking from underneath is Harun Yahya, just to serve his fabricated scientific miracles.
10. How can a woman shake the trunk of palm tree?
11. Allah must be talking about Samson. Not even twenty strong men can shake the trunk of a date-palm tree.
As long as we are talking about women giving birth then we need to talk about things nobody knows except Allah. Muhammad said in the hadith of the book of Sahih Al-Bukhari:
Sahih Al-Bukhari, Book 2, Hadith # 47
Sahih Al-Bukhari, Book 60, Hadith # 300
"Five things which nobody knows with the exclusion of Allah. The Prophet then counted the knowledge of the Hour is with Allah (alone). He sends down the rain, and knows what is in the wombs."(Qur’an 31:34).
In this hadith we have two things combined together, we have: “34it is Allah only who has the knowledge of the hour, and when He sends down rain, and He Who knows what is in the wombs. Nor does anyone know what it is that he will earn on the morrow: Nor does anyone know in what land he is to die. A l l a h i s a l l k n o w l e d g e a b l e w a s o f a l l things.”(Qur’an 31:34)
So what we understand from both hadiths and the Qur’an is the following: 1. Only Allah knows what’s inside a woman’s womb, which basically means that the only thing he knows is the sex of the child: girl or boy. It also means that Allah is an ultrasound machine, which is found today in every birth clinic. Since no one knows what is inside women’s wombs except Allah, we have no other choice except to announce that the ultrasound machine is the God of Islam.
2. No one knows what is going to its going to rain except Allah. By this we know how the weather news station gets its weather forecast – whether it will rain or snow. Allah must be providing them the information.
2 The Duration of Pregnancy in Islam
In chapter 13:8, by the interpretation of Al-Qurtbi, Vol. 9, p. 251, the scholars disagree about the maximum duration of pregnancy.
Reported from Ibn Gurij from Gamila Bint Sa'ed, from Aisha, she said,: "the maximum lenght of pregnancy is two years, the same as the change of shadow of spindle (age of spindle before it broke). Narrated by Al-drqani and Gamilah Bint Sa'ed, the sister of 'Ubid Ibn Sa'ed, and narrated by Laith Ibn Sa'ed, that the maximum length of pregnancy is three years. And from the Imam Al-Shafie the maximum is four years, and narrated by Imam Malik the most famous one, it’s five years, and even there is no limitation to how many years a woman can be pregnant, even if it is more than ten years, and according to Al Zuhri,said it is six to seven years.
Click here for the Arabic. Now notice with me how Muslims are confused about their book, including those who lived in Muhammad’s days. This goes even to scholars who present the majority of the population on earth today such as Imam Malik and Imam Al-Shafie.
For your reference, an “Imam” is a Muslim leader and a scholar. An Imam is qualified to teach and give orders according to the book of Muhammad.
Since we are talking about giving birth, maybe we should talk about death in Islam.
3Death in Islam is a person in the shape of a ram
Qur’an 19.39
Sahih Al-Bukhari, Book 60, hadith 254 It narrated by Abu said, Al-Khudri: Allah’s Messenger said, "On the Day of Resurrection, Death will be brought forward to you in the shape of a black and white ram. Afterwards, a shout-maker will shout 'O people of Paradise!' Therefore they will extend their necks and look around carefully. The caller will say, 'Do you know who this is?' They will say, 'Yes, we do. This is Death.' along after that, all of them will have seen it. Afterwards, it will be broadcasted again, 'Oh people of Hell!' They will extend their necks and look around carefully. The caller will say, 'Do you know who this is?' They will say, 'Yes, we do. This is Death.' And after then, all of them will have seen it. Afterwards, that ram will be slain, and the caller will say, 'Oh people of Paradise! Immortality for all of you and no death, Oh people of Hell! Immortality for you and no death.' Then the Prophet, recounted and admonished them of the Day of suffering when the time came, while for now they are in a state of carelessness (i.e. the humans worldwide), and they do not believe.'
1 .According to the story, Death is a person.
2.Then Allah will kill this person [Mr. Death]
3.Do you Know how you can kill Death.
4.The purpose of killing Death is to make us live forever.
5.When in fact, death is the non-existence of LIFE and nothing more. I think this is very pure science of Islam.
6.Same as darkness, you do not need to create it, its already exist just eliminate the light and darkness will be there.
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Muslims’ claim
THE SEQUENCE IN DEVELOPMENT OF HUMAN ORGANS
www.miraclesoftheQur’an.com/scientific_63.html
It is He Who has created hearing, sight and minds for you. What little thanks you show! (Qur’an, 23:78)
Allah brought you out of your mothers' wombs knowing nothing at all, and gave you hearing, sight and minds so that perhaps you would show thanks. (Qur’an, 16:78)
Say: "What do you think? If Allah took away your hearing and your sight and sealed up your hearts, what god is there, other than Allah, who could give them back to you?". (Qur’an, 6:46)
We created man from a mingled drop to test him, and We made him hearing and seeing. (Qur’an, 76:2) The above verses refer to a number of senses
given to human beings by Allah. These are always referred in a specific order in the Qur’an: hearing, sight, feeling and understanding.
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My answer
Again Muhammad is affected by the Bible. Exodus 4:11
And the LORD said, unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD"
1 John 1:1-4 ESV “That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we looked upon and have touched with our hands, concerning the word of life”
However I want to remind you that in the coming few pages we are going to refute all the claims regarding the human creation, without the need to mention the titles, one by one, as mentioned by Mr. Harun. If one of them is wrong the rest will be wrong. At the same time, what we will provide from the Qur’an and the words of Muhammad himself are all connected because all of them speak about one topic, which is about human creation. It starts from the stage of the sperm to the stage of her’s including what determines the gender of the baby, according to Islam.
Mr. Harun said, and we quote:
“These are always referred in a specific order in the Q u r ’ a n : h e a r i n g , s i g h t , f e e l i n g a n d understanding”.
This is absolutely false and we will show him examples from where seeing comes before hearing; (Qur'an 90:8-9)
“Have We not made for him two eyes?,(9) And a tongue
and two lips?”
In order to use the tongue or lips hearing is a must so its about hearing, and hearing is coming afterwards of eyes.
Qur'an 18:101 Sahih International
“Those whose eyes had been within a cover [removed] from My remembrance, and they were not able to hear.”
Qur’an 32:12 where seeing comes before hearing; Qur’an 22:46 where understanding comes before hearing and seeing.
In some verses heart ( understanding) comes before hearing or seeing. (Qur'an 16:108)
“They are those upon whose hearts(understanding), hearing (ears) and sight (eyes) Allah has set a seal. And they are the unaware.”
(Qur'an17:86)
'And We have placed over their hearts covers, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness'
(Qur’an 22:46)
Do they not travel through the land, so that their hearts may therefore, learn comprehension, and their ears may therefore, learn to hear? Sincerely, it is not their eyes that are blind, but their hearts, which are in their chests.
As you see in this verse, a lot teaches about science according to Muslims because remember, they're the ones who made these verses about science. It is no longer about them being metaphorical. Therefore, according to Allah’s science, we would understand from this verse the following:
1 .Understanding is in the heart not in the brain.
2.Ears and Eyes came after understanding.
3.Therefore, according to Mr. Harun’ logic, Allah is very wrong because this is not the correct order according to his claim.
In the Middle East there is a street expression that goes like this: “the water to expose the false diver”. Mr. Harun himself chose this verse for us claiming that it speaks about the stages of creation of the embryo. From his translation we quote:
“It is He Who has created hearing, sight and minds for you. What little thanks you show!” (Qur’an, 23:78)
The verse has nothing to do with science, its speaking of Allah favor upon man kind that is all, they are desperate for a miracle because their proclaimed prophet never had any.
If you read the verse carefully, Allah is saying that someone calling him He, created hearing. He did not say created Ears, Seeing not Eyes; and to make it simple for you, the Muslims in here speak about which organs started to develop first, which means in this stage there is no hearing, there is seeing and no duty or job or function to do. This is how Muslims make miracles out of nothing. But based on the claim we understand, the order of the creation was this:
1) Ears.
2) Eyes.
3) Brain.
This is absolutely false because the brain starts to develop before the ears and eyes, as we will show you, but for the sake of argument, if we assume that in the above verses, the stages of creation is accurate, this means Allah always spoke about our human organs by the stages of creation, then the Qur’an has a problem where in the following chapter we read:
Qur'an 2:7
“Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur).” Yusuf Ali Translation.
According to this verse, the stages are: 1) Heart.
2)Hearing.
3)Eyes.
Qur’an 46:26
"and we gave them and empowered them, and had assigned them with (1) ears and (2) eyes and (3) hearts; but their ears and eyes and hearts did not help them since they denied the revelations of Allah; and what they used to mock surrounding them."
According to this verse, the stages are:
1) Ears.
2) Eyes.
3) Heart.
But according to science this is absolutely false because the heart is one of the first organs in the embryo to develop and the heart starts to beat about 16 or 18 days after the conception, which is the fifth week of pregnancy. The heart begins to pump fluid and in the same week, which is the fifth, the brain starts to also develop. The ears and eyes develop between the sixth and seventh week, which of course means after the heart has been created…and these all makes the Qur’an a very bad reference.
Surely, I am not a doctor and I don’t claim to be one. But with the help of the Internet, you can get all the answers you seek. To be certain that I am giving you a very accurate information, please search the information yourself. Search for this article written in the American government’s website:
“U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Fetal development”.
Or U.S. National Library of Medicine
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002398.htm
Since I’m speaking about this topic, let me then expose a contradiction in the Qur’an and a hadith regarding the stage of development of the embryo. The Qur’an, and the Hafith says in another verse, as we will read:
Book of Musnad Ahmad/Musnad AL-Mukthren, p. 375,
Hadith # 3543:
The prophet said, the sperm will stay in the women’s womb for forty days, as sperm without any changes at all, when the forty days are over it will turn into a blood clot, then it will change into a piece of flesh, after that into the fetus, afterwards, Allah will send his angel, therefore, the angel will say: “O Lord, male or female? Happy or sad? Short or tall? Weak or strong? Healthy or sick? As a result it would be written for him all of this in his destiny.” Then a man said, “Why do we do good deeds?” The prophet responded, “Your work, it would be instructed by Allah!!!”
The same story is referenced in:
Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Hadith # 6392
Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Hadith # 6395
Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Hadith # 6391 The prophet said, the sperm will stay in the women’s womb for forty days as sperm.
Sahih Muslim Book 033, Hadith 6390
Sahih Al-Bukhari, Book 55, Hadith 549
According to Abdullah (bin Masud) that the Messenger of Allah regarding your creation Allah will. Brings together the constituents of one of you for (1) forty days in his mother's belly in the form of blood, and then (2) it will become a blood clot in another period of forty days. (3) Then it will become a piece of flesh and forty days later Allah will send an angel to it with instructions concerning four things, so the angel writes his livelihood, and his death, his deeds, his fortune and misfortune.
Sahih Al-Bukhari, Book of AL-Qader hadith, 6222 (Arabic) The Messenger said, Allah commits an angel to be responsible for the uterus, and the angel says, 'O Lord, it is sperm! O Lord, it is at this point a clot! O Lord, i
t is right now a piece of flesh.' And after that, if Allah wishes to finish its creation, the angel inquires 'O Lord, a male or a female? Miserable and wicked deeds or joyful? How much will his provisions be? What will his age be?' Subsequently all that is written while the being is still in the mother's uterus. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Book 77, Hadith 594)
Allah's Messenger said,: “About the issue of your creation, each one of you are placed in the womb of his mother (as a sperm) for the first forty days, and after that he comes to be a clot, and then you will be a clot for the coming forty days, and after that you will be transformed to a piece of meat for an another forty days. Afterwards Allah sends an angel, and he will be ordered by four words, to write, four destinies; he writes his (the baby's) deeds, time of his death, means of his subsistence and whether he will be miserable (infidel) or blessed in a religious meaning. Afterwards, it will be breathed the soul into his body. So a man will do the deeds of people of heaven and only the distance of an arm is between him and the heaven, then what has been written by the angel supersedes, and so he starts doing deeds of the people of hell fire and enters hell fire. Identical a person may do deeds and work of hell fire subsequently the deeds which are written to him by the angels will be in command to surpass, so he will change to do the work of the people of paradise, so he enters paradise.
This means, as Muhammad is saying, that: 1) “The prophet said, the sperm will stay in the women’s womb for forty days as sperm without any change at all.” Is that what science teaches? A sperm cannot live for more than 5-7 days max. Not forty as Muhammad claimed.
2) Science proves that by the third week, the embryo has already developed all the organs’ system. But for Muhammad there is still only sperm.
3) It becomes a blood clot in another forty-day period. 4) Forty days later, it becomes a piece of flesh. To learn more, visit the Indiana University’s website or just search this title: “Human Reproduction and Development”. Now Mr. Harun and all the other Muslims use the name of Dr. Keith Moore who wrote a paper, not a book, about some verses in the Qur’an dated year 1986 which is more than 26 years ago. What’s funny is that Dr. Moore never converted to Islam. He made that paper upon request because he was invited to Saudi Arabia at that time.
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