by Nancy Lieder
unannounced. But there are aspects of these predictions not detailed, which are coming apparent the year prior to the
shift. What are some of these aspects?
Plate Shifting
Earthquakes have been predicted by us to increase in frequency and strength going into the shift itself, and this
includes the present time, the year prior to the shift. Earth crust plates that are coming under increasing pressure
will no longer react only with increased quakes, shaking and minor adjustments along the fault lines. The plates
will start to show these signs of increased pressure in their interior. It was noted that black water appeared in the
Caribbean, which we described as dirt freed from overlapping rock layers recently disturbed. Subsequent to this,
a train wreck in Florida occurred, just after the tracks were inspected, and the engineer reported seeing buckled
tracks in front of him. Why did the tracks buckle? The ground not only heaved, it moved sideways, or
compressed, and this will not be the only occurrence of such a train wreck for similar reasons. Plates under
pressure may or may not adjust according to their known or anticipated reactions. Mountain building can occur,
in a small degree, and likewise sudden depression in areas that are subducting. In every plate, there are areas
where the layers of rock are crumbly, not solid, and when this crumbles, anything could happen on the surface,
from a drop to a rise, including shifts in the water table.
Imploding Cities
The ground under cities will experience this too. Urban residents are lulled into thinking that they are safe, the
gas lines capped and water lines tight, electric power trips to keep surges in line. Millions go to work and fall
asleep assured by their leaders that all is in hand, with rescue teams alert and at the ready. In fact, the weak link
is just waiting to break, from a source not anticipated by the city architects. Water lines can snap when the
piping is put under pressure or stretched. Gas lines certainly can experience cracks and snaps. If electrical power
lines, not as insulated as reported, and leaking gas, and water that conducts electricity, are put together, what do
you have? Building with heavy plumbing running up to all the toilets and showers have a sinkhole developing
under them. They will implode. Gas lines leaks set off in an explosion caused by adjustments under a city, will
not just be limited to a building or block, but will ricochet through the city, creating a holocaust potentially.
Some of these potentially can make the World Trade Center disaster look mild. To predict just what soft spot
might adjust, or what fault line might lift, in the year prior to the shift is flirting with our guidelines from the
Council of Worlds which forbids us to warn mankind of specific, immediate, dangers such as quakes.
Weather Extremes
Weather irregularities will continue in the manner we have described since 1995, with increasing swings and
extremes. In that weather irregularities are smoothed, by nature, by increased atmospheric activity or ocean
currents, temperature extremes will not occur. Rather, oscillating extremes, similar to what the world has already
experienced, will occur. Sudden shift to cold weather, sudden unseasonably warm weather, and the like. Crop
shortages and difficulties in growing crops to marketability will likewise follow these weather extremes.
Atmospheric disturbances, beyond those usually encountered and thus watched for by pilots, are occurring. Even
prior to the year before the shift, what is called micro-bursts were being increasingly reported and downed
planes blamed on this. If the weather is moving to extremes, this equates to hotter air masses, colder drafts, and
sudden wind equalizing these air masses. Beyond these problems, airplanes use satellites to guide them, magnetic
orientation to guide them, and these likewise will either fail on occasion or given invalid readings.
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Economic Collapse
Struggling companies, worldwide, will find they must shrink or die and this activity affects the economy
worldwide, with teetering economies collapsing in stages, as we have predicted. Once this process starts, there
will be domino effects, with a rapid collapse of the markets and banks. The barter system will be utilized in the
year prior to the shift, increasingly, even when the monetary system in a country is supposedly secure and
stabilized. The public, seeing how rapidly Argentina went into the toilet, and the glowing terms ascribed to the
banking and Stock Markets of the world, are suspicious. How many Enron's are out there? And knowing that the
public will be the last to hear about a pending collapse, they are thinking how to survive, now, and not waiting
for their leadership to shaft them. There are dozens of Enrons, many with far worse accounting and broader
impact. In fact, our prediction on a Stock Market collapse, wherein the value of today’s stock falls to 1/4 its
current value, will be triggers in the main by revelations of this. These situations have a tenuous hold, now, and
could unravel based on any number of breaks in the dike.
Uptick in Disease
Where we have mentioned increasing illness, from known germs and also those unexpected which are appearing
in new environments, this is taking mankind by shock when it does occur. The fact that doctors are guessing
most of the time when treating illness, and that this has been the case up until the present, is lost on the public as
they have been lulled by the medical establishment into thinking a trip to the doctor will cure them. Honest
doctors admit they are guessing most of the time, trying things, and any confident air is a falsehood to get the
patients to pay up ahead of time. Now that new illnesses, or familiar illnesses in strange places, are occurring,
the public is aghast, but this is in fact the status quo. During the year prior to the shift, this will be in the news
increasingly, an up tick from the present situation.
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Category Earth Changes: stated was an increase in frequency and strength, but underreported and less than a lineal increase due to heating and swelling of the Earth such that plates separate at the edges. Imploding cities due to
infrastructure dropping.
Where those braced for the possibility of a pole shift are expecting massive earthquakes in the months
leading up to the shift, the actual Earth changes will be a movement of the ground, in place, rather than the
jolting of plate movement that causes earthquakes. Quakes will continue to increase, both in frequency and
strength, of course, but this will not be the primary source of devastation. We have predicted imploding
cities, where the infrastructure drops or buckles such that buildings collapse in place, suddenly. Rail line
disasters have occurred where the tracks are suddenly found to have buckled or zagged in place, without
explanation. This is a forerunner of more such episodes, affecting bridges, roadways, the infrastructure of
cities and large buildings, enclosed underground structures, and dams.
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Category Oceans: stated was that tides will increase, whirlpools occur, and continued polar melt due to core warming.
Where ignored lately in the press, the swelling oceans will begin to devastate coastlines and islands such
that they demand attention in the press. This is not entirely due to polar melt, but also to heating of the
oceans and heaving crustal plates that move upward to relieve the press of swirling magma, giving the
oceans less of a bowl to rest in. Coastal cities will find themselves steadily inundated, water in the streets
and sewage lines backed up. Insurance companies will turn their backs on these incidences, created
demands on government to step into the void and provide housing and compensation for private and
corporate victims alike. Refugee camps will be started, and become the intractable norm while the
governments and media downplay the extent of the problem.
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Category Weather/Crop Failure: stated was the erratic weather predicted in 1995, effect on commercial crops, and
underreporting in the media. Depleated stores will result in starving countries being ignored.
As the starving are more easily controlled by oppressors, the increasing starvation around the world will be
less of a factor in riots and turmoil than would be expected. Befuddled thinking, exhaustion that makes
even assuming a standing position difficult, and the inability to muster an assault prevent the starving
from becoming a nuisance to their governments or oppressors, so they are simply ignored. As the wealthy
and elite stock their enclaves, food stuffs will increasingly become scarce, with a lack of options during
shopping the most noticeable result. Until a populace used to thinking that their government has put aside
stores for emergencies find that the stores have long been emptied, there will not be rage, as any hint that
the truth is about to emerge is likely to result in a government sponsored party, as a distraction. Those
countries where the populace is aware that they must depend upon themselves will find more squirreling
away of food stuffs, with soldiers sent into the field to locate and raid these stores.
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Category Populace Reactions: stated was migration increase, seeking better places; increasing illness among humans and animals alike; riots suppressed with brutality; and people seeking solutions in cults, survival groups, or by
becoming virtual slaves of the rich in work camps. Polarization will occur.
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means for mobility and energy to spare, will seek solutions with others. This will not so much be a
reaching out to the governments which are clearly incompetent to address the changes, but in discussions
initiated by individuals, each to the other. Governments will be heard from after tragedies, disasters, and
when bad news must be announced and can no longer be denied or suppressed. They will announce
solutions, work camps or refugee camps, but the takers will only be those hapless souls unable to do
otherwise. Forming groups will in the main squabble, expectations that prior life styles should be
continued slow to change, and will seldom succeed until after the shift, when it is clear what changes are
needed, no argument.
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Category Establishment Reaction: stated was Global Warming used as an excuse until obviously inadequate; media
suppression of news about quakes, crop failures, and rising sea levels; worldwide depression with banks and stock
markets shored up by the establishment to appear otherwise; stock market dropping to 1/4 of its former level; price and
distribution controls; barter system increasing among the populace, while war mongering among the elite to distract the
populace.
When the stock markets crash, the brakes no longer able to be applied and all investors desperately going
for themselves despite instructions from their masters, price controls will be instituted. Somber faced
officials will parade about, imitating the days of the Great Depression, all blaming a source other than
themselves for the disaster. Talk will be the order of the day, with little action. In that the economic
disasters can take the media stage, increasing Earth changes can get pushed aside. This will allow
governments to huddle while they plot to save themselves, the doors closed to their desperate citizenry
who will be told they must allow their governments to cook up solutions, in peace. Thus, when the shift
occurs, the citizenry will find no governments behind closed doors, but absent, long moved to safe
locations, without a word to those they are leaving behind in ignorance.
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ZetaTalk: Debunking Failures
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Note: written during the Jan 18, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
Signs of stress and cracks in the armor of the many factions of the debunking team are showing. This team has many
arms, not all working together, and most only vaguely aware of each other. They are coordinated at arms length by the
establishments, in part by funding from the banking enterprises, highly threatened by the public becoming aware of the
approaching earth changes, by the CIA working on ops not reported to Congress at all, especially since they are
supposed to be working outside of the US, not within, and by NASA. The individuals they support, either with funds
or information or a cheerleading section, are not aware of the other arms, a typical covert activity methodology. The
cracks, so visible recently, are caused by several setbacks:
1. A key astronomer, who had been working on the team, designing alternate explanations and helping to craft
attacks on the ZetaTalk message, quit. He became aware of the plans to deny the public information up to the
end, essentially murdering billions of the earth's populace, or having this effect. He had assumed the cover-up to
be temporary, until the establishment could emerge with plans to inform the public, but found no such plans
being worked on whatsoever. Thus, others stepped in, less competent, and the wrong signals have been given.
2. Wrong signals include Jim Scotti assuming that ZetaTalk was saying that Planet X was at Saturn's orbit, when
regular postings on sci.astro and the web site made it clear, from the start, and consistently, what the distance is.
Having mis-stepped badly at the start, Jim found it hard to regain his footing. This and the assumption the
debunking master had that Nancy was not paying attention to sci.astro postings whatsoever, created a debate
debacle.
3. Failure to closely direct debunkers such as Sarah, aka Silk in the chats, so that she went forth only partly
prepped and made horrendous misstatements about Saturn's visibility, during a public chat. She was supposed to
be expert, an accomplished amateur, had postured herself thus, and such a display pointed out that any
intelligent posting had been fed to her.
4. Failing to gain leadership in the search, which was the intent for John Oliver, aka IMO, during the summer of
2002, when he was encouraging all to look when Orion was in the sun, at the Zeta coordinates, and the public
was to find they could see nothing. This was sabotaged by
us, ZetaTalk, in our refusal to provide summertime
coordinates, as nothing could be seen when Orion was in the Sun in any case. IMO thus defeated only himself,
but the plan still existed to gain leadership, so after Jim Scotti declined to stay in the arena, the debunking
master sent in Michael Cunningham and others to say look, its not there!
Well, unfortunately, the debunking master's timing was off, as it was clearly visible by this time, and the web sites
quickly thrown up to grab the leadership role only provided more data, more proof! Thus, a type of hysteria has set in,
with any party willing to be used by the debunking master exhorted to be shrill, do anything, and this is likely to get
worse. Hazlewood is hardly heard about anymore, having failed to capture the public as a Pied Piper, and having been
too obviously in error in his postings about where Planet X was, for instance, seen in the Sun by the Hubble, which
would never be pointed there due to potential and certain mirror damage. McCanny, who went from asserting that
Planet X would not return in 2003 to saying 2003 would happen but it would come from Sagittarius, has discredited
himself. He is a self promoter, enraged when others get the stage, and is fuming that Nancy so casually gets the
attention she does. Thus, they go off to lick their wounds, or sputter about in an obvious manner, and this type of
contradictions and flip-flopping are likely to get extreme, not corrected, as the weeks wend on. If you think this is
interesting, wait until the establishment tries to start explaining the big reddish object in the skies! This is
entertainment!
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ZetaTalk: Sighting Shock
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Note: written during the Jan 25, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
For the people of Earth, the points they will be concerned with are that it IS going to happen, or not, which they are all
entertaining as a possibility. That it is going to happen will be determined, for many, when the 7 week period begins,