ZetaTalk: Transformation

by Nancy Lieder

  occur, so he himself can be discredited, by his own words.

  NASA has long been so tight in their Planet X cover-up that they can hardly reverse, but are doing so in the

  kiddy corner. Talking to kids, who talk to their parents, is allowed. They will claim it is the Sun, a comet, a

  nova, until the Spring of 2003 when another excuse will be generated. To shelter the elite in bunkers, they may

  claim an aggressive asteroid, outgassing and moving directly toward Earth, or a close passage. This would allow

  all manner of movement of military and the power mongers in Washington DC, as well as those in Russia to

  move to the Urals, the Brits to Australia, and the wealthy to their spots, without delay. NASA is only addressing

  the issue in the kiddy corner, to have a place to direct those asking, just as the elite are expected to direct the

  desperate to Troubled Times and ZetaTalk when asked what they, their governments, are going to do to protect

  and help them during these times.

  The Norlock claim is obvious. It appears, on its face, to substantiate ZetaTalk, and should Nancy claim it, she

  would have egg on her face. Expected to be too bloody from the beating to notice, she was expected to embrace

  it, which she did not. Thus, this so-called-friend came cloaked poorly, and did not succeed.

  The media can be expected to report stories as provided, as they do today. Does anyone think that the mix being

  presented by the major media, anywhere in the world, is a fair reporting of what is relevant? Where the press is

  not suppressed, it is burdened with reporting the irrelevant, and this is not specific to any country, but is a factor

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  ZetaTalk: Targeted Message

  of existing politics and control.

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  ZetaTalk: Campaigns

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  ZetaTalk: Campaigns

  Note: written during the Aug 24, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

  Campaigns to discredit ZetaTalk can be easily discerned when we step out of the dance, but the dance goes on

  anyway. An example of that is the Hazlewood campaign to discredit ZetaTalk by association with money scams,

  claiming that the whole Planet X issue is to scarf up money by inciting panic. Nancy effectively sidestepped this by

  calling Hazlewood what he is, at the start, getting him kicked out of Troubled Times for soliciting funds as he was

  doing, and by being broke and living in poverty. When it was time for this campaign to culminate, Hazlewood went

  onto Art Bell, Rense declared it a fraud, and Sarah MacIntyre and others on sci.astro began loud claims that Nancy was getting rich. Sarah MacIntyre is still at it, not having realized that her barbs are utterly pointless. Hazlewood did

  not succeed in getting rich, as his promoters turned their backs on him when this campaign failed, but he continues

  still, hoping for another opportunity. Had Nancy joined in the money games, or allowed them, this campaign would

  have stuck, and afforded those who would discredit her a time of calm, not fear, from the ZetaTalk message.

  The Summer of 2002 was deemed another opportunity for the disinfo crowd. They know that the Spring of 2003 [Note:

  see 2003 Date explanation] will see a strong red cross in the sky, visible to all during the daylight hours, coming from beneath the Sun toward them, increasing in size. Plans for these days are much under discussion, but all the elite are

  grim about these times, knowing them to be virtually unexplainable to the general public. The Winter preceding this

  Spring is expected to be handled by creating distractions, such as police actions in Iraq, staged terrorism which may

  not be real at all, but claimed to be such, and claims that what is being sighted in the sky is a comet of sorts, or a

  nova, or any number of such things. The fact that it will be exactly where we have predicted since 1995 is hoped to be

  overlooked, by a prolonged discrediting campaign against ZetaTalk. This is the campaign you see now, from various

  sources, all seemingly independent but not so. This type of response could be expected during the Planet X awakening,

  with a push back commensurate with a push forward. For every coup by Nancy or other truth sayers, there will be a disinfo campaign, louder depending upon the public reaction. Thus, we often cause Nancy to appear to limp, as this

  sets back the force of disinfo, and then suddenly and unexpectedly, a success, and thus truth is promoted.

  The trends noted where 2003 is loudly pronounced not to be the year, and ZetaTalk a pile of poop, is related to the

  campaign which was supposed to be supported by ZetaTalk coordinates, which Open Minded and others on sci.astro

  could use to claim not there! When ZetaTalk refused to provide the coordinates, Open Minded went to the dance

  alone, dancing with himself, showing the campaign for what it was. Why would he loudly state not there, when

  pointing to spots he had conjured up? Because, like Sarah MacIntyre's claims that Nancy was getting rich, it was time,

  and he was doing what was planned, on schedule. Thus, one can look beyond any behavior of ZetaTalk to see what is

  behind the trends, and what the establishment hopes to accomplish. Once again, by appearing to be in the game, then

  stepping out, ZetaTalk shows those who would point mankind in the wrong directions, taking from them their right to

  know, revealed for what they are. They go to the dance, even without the partner expected, dancing alone, causing all

  to point and ask "why"?

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  ZetaTalk: Monitored

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  ZetaTalk: Monitored

  Note: written during the Feb 8, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

  The ZetaTalk message is popular on the Internet, worldwide, mentioned in printed matter such as magazines and

  newspapers, and has a broad reach. Despite attempts to utterly discredit it, Nancy and ourselves have managed to

  dance through the maze, and arrived at a position of influence. As mentioned previously, they cannot, despite their

  numerous attempts, kill certain influential individuals, due to our protection, so the dance was an attempt to increase

  the reach of the message, while convincing the distressed power mad that they had won the battle. Refer to the

  information we gave some months earlier, about Nancy being allowed to stumble, re this. Thus, ZetaTalk has arrived at

  the last hour, fully known worldwide, widely respected, increasing in influence enormously even should it stop being

  accessible, because of the many who have followed it over the years, and the many personal copies of the message that

  have been made.

  In short, the word is out, and therefore simply trying to stop the message creates a greater problem, as this would be

  taken as a sign that a cover-up was in effect, proof of the validity of the message. Thus, those who would prevent the

  common man from knowing what is happening, today, are stuck. They cannot simply stop ZetaTalk, as this would be

  as bad as allowing it to continue full force. They cannot counter the highlights of the message, ie the inbound planet

  becoming visible 7 weeks before passage [Note: see 2003 Date explanation], as any attempt to offer a countering explanation would be suspect. They have thus decided to ignore the message, pretend what is being imaged at our coordinates is

  not there, and having increasingly prestigious personages mutter disparaging remarks about Nancy
and ZetaTalk.

  But in the back rooms, in private discussions among themselves, the elite, the mongers of death and agony to the

  common man, pour over new ZetaTalk with increasing anxiety. Their best laid plans are not working out, the attempts

  to spread the US military worldwide to enforce the wishes of the elite is meeting with problems as the military is

  taking sick, being spread too thin, and not being allowed to overtake their objectives promptly so that Iraq falls, Saudi

  Arabia falls, and the rest of the world be damned. They see their prized plans, to escape to Mars, dashed most

  embarrassingly with the recent Shuttle disaster. They see their attempts to maintain the markets, with false value

  assigned to stock becoming rapidly worthless, slipping from their fingers daily. And they read with horror the ZetaTalk

  that is allowed to emerge because to prevent this, to insert their control, creates an even greater aura of truth to the ZetaTalk message, as this weeks problems with the #poleshiftdiscussion chat will demonstrate.

  Do we have White House members, assigned to attend the chats? Absolutely. Does Putin monitor ZetaTalk, the Brits?

  Most definitely. Putin monitors, the Brits have long been among the disrupters, and other countries reach, long reach,

  to attend, to stay abreast of the latest bombs before they hit the streets.

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  ZetaTalk: Future Visions

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  ZetaTalk: Future Visions

  Note: written Sep 15, 1995.

  Many contactees speak with great emotion of visions they have been given, often of a devastated Earth. These are

  understood by the contactee to be visions of the future, and many come away confused as to whether the vision is the

  future or might be the future. We will reiterate here that the future is not written, and such visions are always just

  possible scenarios. One reason for confusion is that the visions seem so very real. Humans are used to the movies, in

  the main, where however engrossing the story, told with sight and sound, one is always cognizant of the viewers

  seated nearby, munching popcorn - a reality check.

  When visions are given to contactees it is by a machine to brain method that most closely approximates your new

  virtual reality devices. All the senses are engaged, in the brain. The contactee is not at all being presented with a

  reality. They are being presented with a story. Why is this done? Humans are altogether too complacent about the

  fragility of their world. They merrily pollute and deplete their ecosystem without a thought. They in the main will

  march into the coming cataclysms with no preparation whatsoever, becoming, all of them, disaster victims who will

  then look to one another for help. We are simply making these contactees think. Think!

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  ZetaTalk: Pole Shift Precursors

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  ZetaTalk: Pole Shift Precursors

  Note: written Sep 15, 1996.

  Leading up to the pole shift in the year 2003 [Note: see 2003 Date explanation], human society will be forced to deal with the pole shift precursors, some of which will be devastating. Earthquakes will increase in frequency and strength,

  volcanoes will continue to spring to life with little warning, and the weather will become ever more erratic with

  intractable droughts followed by endless deluges. Beyond that, there will not be any particular occurrences on any

  particular date, nor will any particular region be unduly affected. An alarmed populace, seeing the crescendo, will

  increasingly attempt to explain the situation, and to alleviate their anxiety and gain control of the situation by

  forecasting occurrences based on the explanation. The planets are lining up, global warming has the weather in a tizzy,

  the Sun is going through a violent sunspot cycle - any explanation is preferable to the real explanation, which is too

  horrific to entertain.

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  ZetaTalk: Rapid Change

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  ZetaTalk: Rapid Change

  Note: written during the Jan 11, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

  Many normal weather, disease, or animal behavior is noted during rapid change, and attributed to some exceptional

  cause. This has occurred during the past few years in regard to weather, in a reverse fashion, as the establishment is

  quick to point out that at sometime in the past there was such a drought, such a storm, or such a warm day in winter or

  a cold day in summer. They are, in this, seeking to diminish the reaction among the populace that weather has gotten

  extreme, which it has, even within the memory of man. Should patterns showing the switching about, from deluge to

  drought, or the extremes reached in both directions, this would not be a part of previously known patterns. In illness,

  we are frequently asked if this or that seeming epidemic is manmade, or bio-terrorism, when it is just existing germs

  affecting those with reduced immune systems, or existing germs in new places, or unknown germs now becoming

  prominent.

  Nevertheless, these germs are not new, even if unknown, and the increased illness is due to dropping immune systems,

  migrating germs, and opportunistic germs. Animal behavior also has been noted as almost crazed, where animals

  normally passive and seeking to avoid confrontation will attack with provocation, or fly in the wrong direction during

  migration. This is due to signals the animals or insects get from the core of the Earth, signals not known to man, but

  nontheless there. Humans are also affected by the core emanations, but not to any degree that would be noted in the

  populace at large. One affect is a decreased immune system, but this is to a larger extent cause by depression over

  changed events than core emanations. A second effect manifests in being distracted, not thinking clearly, but this is to

  a larger extent caused by being subconsciously upset over the manner in which the establishment is addressing the

  problems, the cover-ups increasingly obvious. Thus, unlike spiders who weave acres of webs, or migrating birds going

  in the wrong directions, there is little that is evident in man that can be accounted for as core emanations.

  Spiders weaving webs to an extreme so that acres are covered under webs, get noted, but the base behavior is normal

  for a spider. When earthquakes start to affect populated areas, they will be called rogue quakes, as they will occur in

  places not experiencing them previously, or occur in unusual manners. Perhaps the quake will be a sudden and singular

  jolt, no precursors or aftershocks, or jolt upward where the region usually experiences sideslip quakes. This does not

  mean anything has changed, just that the familiar patterns is now new. The Earth has experienced such prolonged

  droughts, in areas such as Australian and sub-Sahara Africa, that behavior unknown to the inhabitants may occur.

  Rock, dried beyond dry, will crack or settle in manners not known to the residents. Fires, where they start and

  normally flow forwards toward the source of fuel, may find all vegetation in its path so dry that it burns hot, driving the air away from the fire in a draft. Water logged soil may slide in areas not used to land slides, or even cause

  hillsides to move sideways due to the lift that water tables can give it. Thus, we are telling you that just
because a

  phenomena is unusual for an area, does not make it unusual for life on Earth in general! Expect the unexpected!

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  ZetaTalk: Societal Disruption

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  ZetaTalk: Societal Disruption

  Note: written Oct 15, 1998.

  Many humans, when observing rapid changes in the weather or in satellite reception are concerned that the coming

  cataclysms will likewise produce rapid societal disruption well before the week of the pole shift. They worry about

  how to anticipate these changes, not only the ones ensuing from nature but also from a more unpredictable source -

  human society. Will the banks collapse? Will the grocery shelves be bare? Will the militia march down the streets of

  their peaceful neighborhood? What should they be braced for? Where we can predict conditions in nature, those rooted

  in human society such as potential violence or potential peaceful enclaves, we cannot predict. These are in the hands

  of man.

  However, there is unlikely to be violent, rapid changes until it is close to the time when it will be quite clear to all of

  mankind that their world, as they know it, is not going to continue beyond the next few weeks or months. Humankind,

  wishes to believe that the future will be as the past has been - predictable, Sun rising, crops drawn in, occasional

  floods, occasional droughts, unpredictable health problems such as cancer and heart attack, babies being born, and the

  renewal of life. They cling to this. Until it is absolutely clear that this will not continue, human society will not

  collapse. They will cling to the belief that this will continue because the heart wants to believe this.

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  ZetaTalk: 2 Camps

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  ZetaTalk: 2 Camps