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essentially. So one could say during the 3 month dash through the solar system that Repulsion Force with the Sun is in
play. This does not slow the passage, but hurries it past.
Strong effects of Planet X are felt for some decades prior to the passage, reaching an extreme point at passage, and
remain troubling during the turnaround and return, and then dimminish. The Jewish Exodus described a 7 year period
of weather and crop problems, and this is now. Then the passage. Then there is a 7 year turnaround and return. Then
another 7 years as the planet is outbound. In all of this, humans have a rough estimate of the attraction force of gravity,
but don't deal with speed. This is where the concept is new to mankind. Unless this Repulsion Force, which has been
proven to exist with the Moon, on sci.astro debates, is taken into consideration, it boggles mankind. But if this is
considered, our description makes sense. We would suggest that those who find this a puzzling spend less time trying
to reconcile mankinds theories of how things work and more time applying them to the Moon issue, which gets
evaded. Once they have faced the fact that the Moon is too large, and moving too slowly, to be up there per Newton,
then they will have cleared their minds for some real thinking.
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ZetaTalk: Second Pass
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Note: written on Oct 15, 1995. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
The return passage of the 12th Planet is dictated by a combination of forces - momentum, attraction, and (for want of a
more scientific term to describe this process) the call of the wild. The 12th Planet has stopped, and hovers for some
years before beginning its return passage. The rate of startup essentially mirrors the rate of stoppage, so movement is
slow at first, almost imperceptible.
During its first passage the 12th Planet had been moving already, and the factor of momentum allowed it to accelerate
an already existing rate of speed when boring in on the Solar System. Where space does not have much matter to
create resistance to motion, momentum is in and of itself a factor. Why does a ball in a track on a straight-away
continue to roll after the initial push? What keeps it rolling? Momentum, which in fact is an interplay between the
attraction and repulsion forces of bodies around the object in motion, is a factor in its own right. Momentum is what
causes the planets to orbit, perpetually, and the Earth to rotate, perpetually. Thus, the 12th Planet's return requires that
it again build momentum, which it does not do to a comparable degree until it is inside the Solar System again and
well into the net of gravitational attraction that the Sun presents. The return passage thus finds the 12th Planet more
sedate in its approach but nearly equivalent in the speed of its passage through the Solar System, which is dictated
more by the relative size of the Sun and the 12th Planet than any other factors.
The 12th Planet hovers for the length of time it does before returning because of what we will term the call of the wild.
Having stopped in its tracks the 12th Planet is in a vulnerable position, and in point of fact could become caught in a
new pattern of motion should the objects around it present a new dynamic. It has stopped, dead still, and thus is in a
virginal position of having no commitments. During most passages of the 12th Planet there is no contest, but in some
cases there are other attractions nearby that create confusion. The upshot of this is that the 12th Planet may delay
longer before setting out on its return passage, but the factors in your part of the Universe are not such as to change the outcome.
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ZetaTalk: 12th Planet Glow
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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
Humans are aware of heat and light being produced together - fire, the Sun, and elements heated until they glow.
Humans are also aware of light being produced without heat, as with fireflies or minerals that are phosphorescent. And
of course, there is heat without light, close at hand as in 98.6 degrees. The 12th Planet has both heat and light,
generated from within its core. Life on the 12th Planet, which is inhabited by a large hominoid indistinguishable from
humans other than by its size, experiences continuous day. Life that has evolved there does not sleep, but rests. The
light is diffused in the atmosphere, and returns to the land surface, but emerges from the core to interact with the
atmosphere only via the surface of the deep oceans, which cover the majority of the planet's surface. You may equate
this to volcanic activity, where the Earth has numerous places both above ground and under the oceans that ooze
molten lava. Just so the 12th Planet has places where the molten and churning substance in its core escapes to the
surface.
Fires such as go on in the center of suns do not only proceed full bore. Why would they? Do you not have a fire within
you that is maintained at a steady temperature? Do you not find that the fire in your fireplace can be slowed by
adjusting the damper? Humans do not understand what is occurring within the Sun, a combustion of sorts that ignited
because of the pressure of elements following the big bang, during the congealing period. The Sun was not born, lit. It
lit as compression continued to the point where a product of subatomic particle collision did not dissipate, but
accumulated, and the degradation of this substance is what you are viewing and feeling in your sunlight. This is a
simplistic explanation for a complicated process. The 12th Planet has a similar process ongoing within its core, but
being composed of heavier substances than your Sun, this process is slowed. You can equate this to mixing medicine
into food, rather than taking it directly. This is tolerated because the incident or rate of medicine reacting with a taste
bud is reduced, or slowed.
On the 12th Planet, the heat released diffuses in all directions, so the surface of the planet is warm but not hot. Your
feet would not blister, but they may feel cool in places where the rock strata do not provide a good passage for heat,
should you visit that planet. Light only escapes the core where what is essentially volcanic activity under the water
occurs. Of course, this would occur if there was volcanic activity on the land surface of the planet, but there is little
land surface, and this long ago hardened. Volcanic activity would not be on the surface of the Earth, either, should her
proportion of water to land be increased. Water is pooling in the low spots, and the low spots have less hardened
surface mantle as a barrier. Thin places break, and give release to the pressure from the churning molten core. The
oceans of the 12th Planet, therefore, have places where diffused light is rising, and other places where the oceans
would appear to you much as your own do here on Earth.
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ZetaTalk: Brown Dwarf
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Note: written during the 2001 sci.astro debates .
Of course your laws of physics work well e
nough when applied to the situation they were designed to describe. They
didn't start out that way, as the flat earth theories that held sway in the past clearly demonstrate. People were assumed
to have developed disease due to demons casting spells, and the demonstrated relationship between passing germs
from the dirty hands of a physician from one patient to another was resisted by the establishment just as dropping the
flat earth theory was resisted. Comfortable theories are clung to, for no other reason than change, being open to change,
requires a momentary discomfort. The theories you smugly pronounce are correct were not the theories you smuggly
pronounced as correct yesterday, but that doesn't stop you from making such pronouncements.
Your theory about brown dwarfs exists based on those dwarfs you have observed, wherein they had to be large in order to be observed. Is it not possible for there to be something out there that you have not observed? A composition of a planet not quite in the mix you find in your Solar System, as you know it to be? You operate a slow burn in your
nuclear power plants, which otherwise would be the fast burn of a nuclear explosion that occurs when no braking
mechanism is in place. Is it entirely impossible for suns to have mixed composition? For a slow burn to be in place?
For a planet to have some of the composition of a sun as well as a composition of a solid planet? This is simply not
possible, and because you have not observed it, then it does not exist?
Please spare us your current theories about what makes sun's burn, as you have no more proof of that than you do what
the composition of the core of your very own planet or a proper description of the workings of the atoms you yourself
are composed of. Your current theories are a work in process, and if you are honest you will admit that.
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ZetaTalk: Red Planet
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Note: written during the 2001 sci.astro debates. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
If Planet X is primarily a water planet, then why would it appear to be a red planet, as Mars, which is virtually devoid
of water on its surface? Why would it not, as the Earth, appear to be a blue planet? The explanation lies in the space
trash Planet X has gathered not only traversing back and forth between its two foci but also from the Asteroid Belt
during the pelting process where the planets that rode there were destroyed during various passages of Planet X. Early
in its life, Planet X gathered moons about it as do most large planets, and these moons trail behind it during a rapid
transit. In the past, when the Sun had more mass and the Repulsion Force between the Sun and Planet X was greater,
Planet X traversed the solar system in the Asteroid belt, and the trailing moons, lashing from side to side, pelted small
planets and moon which themselves became missiles of death. During these repeated passages, then, Planet X and its
moons had opportunity to gather space trash, and being a magnetic planet, Planet X would be particularly attractive to
iron dust.
Why does this dust not settle into the atmosphere of Planet X, and drift down into the ocean and cease to be a cloud
giving Planet X a reddish appearance? Given a static environment, this would eventually be the case, but Planet X is
not static, it's perpetually on the move. The dust cloud is far outside what would be termed the atmosphere of Planet X,
so that during the passage through the solar system, it streams behind Planet X to become a long tail of red dust,
oxidized iron, which during a close passage to Earth, when Earth is caught in the tail, causes rivers and ponds to
temporarily turn a blood red color and assume a bitter taste. To those peering at Planet X from Earth, its appearance is
always blood red, due to this cloud. In that the iron dust does not itself emit light, the reddish appearance of Planet X
comes from the light the planet emits, passed through the red dust. When Planet X is close enough to reflect sunlight,
the light must likewise bounces off the ocean surface and must pass through the red dust to return to those peering at it from Earth.
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ZetaTalk: Swirling Moons
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Note: written during the 2001 sci.astro debates. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
Where spin on the surface of a planet is dictated by the moving core of the planet, pulling or pushing on an object free
to move on the surface, spin in space is dictated by whatever the spinning object is bound to. This is not explored by
man, who strives to move directly in space and treats any spin in an object under their control as a problem to be
corrected promptly, as in "the probe has developed a spin and is threatening to spin out of control". The reasons for the spin having developed in the first place is treated as an irrelevancy, and the only issue whether or not the probe is
under control. The spin is suppressed by the little jets that allow man to control his probes when their trajectory needs
to be corrected, and this thus allows mankind to feel smug about his knowledge of how things work. The moons of
Planet X, which trail it like a string of pearls out in space, have no such little jets, so nature, not man, rules, and the
full result of a spin out in space can be observed. Why do the moons trail, and spin in a slow whirlwind behind Planet
X, rather than orbit the planet?
Moons in orbit around planets in a relatively circular orbit around a sun have more than their planet affecting their
behavior. They are of a mass that prevents their plummeting to the planet, as they are evoking the gravitational
repulsion force between themselves and their planet. They are moving, not stationary, not because of the attraction to
the planet, which is at a standstill, but because of attractions to other elements in the solar system. Like a liquid core of
a rotating body, they are moving toward what attracts them, overshooting the point where they are closest to the
attractant, moving around to the far point because of momentum, and proceeding to approach the attractant again.
Where there are a number of moons orbiting a planet, they position themselves like the planets around a sun, at a
comfortable distance from each other to avoid collision, as the repulsion force is in operation between the moons,
which are of relatively equal size, too.
Where it would seems that an orbit, in an orbital plane, around a sun or an planet is the natural outcome, this is
disrupted during the swift passage that Planet X makes past one of its foci, the sun or its dead twin some 18.74 Sun-
Pluto lengths away. Planet X moves away from its moons, pulling forward with increasing speed, at the same time that
it is passing one of its suns and any planets that are orbiting that sun. The moons have conflicting dictates.
Their primary allegiance is to Planet X, due to the flow of gravity particles which force it toward Planet X,
which they are thus bound to. They are thus trying to catch up to Planet X, even when Planet X leaves them
behind.
The secondary influence over the moons is momentum, which continues to cause them to overshoot a reach for
an attractant in the vicinity, to return to the far point of their spin whence they start back again toward the
attractant. Thus, they continue the rotation or orbit
pattern, even when not in a tight orbit around their planet.
The third influence, which comes to interfere with a return to a tight orbit around Planet X, is each other. Moons
around a planet that does not move rapidly away from its moons have established their positions in part because
the moons arrive one at a time! Each new arrival finds an orbit plane taken, and assumes another or displaces the
first, but the factors that dictate position are more static than moons traveling behind a rapidly moving planet. In
essence, the positions are determined because one moon says "I am larger than you, and I wish this position of
closeness to the planet, so you have to move."
Moons that have arrived in a whirlwind behind a rapidly traveling planet have a new dictate to deal with, in that they
find other moons directly in the path they wish to take toward their gravitational giant, in this case Planet X. They are trying to catch the planet, while caught in momentum that their circular chase toward other attractants in the vicinity
has created, but during their approach to their planet they find other moons in the way and this causes a fourth dictate, a bump away from their traveling planet.
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ZetaTalk: Swirling Moons
In moons around a static or slowly orbiting planet, the moons have opportunity to snug closer to the planet when
competing moons are on the opposite side of the planet. When such moons encounter each other, having
assumed the same orbital plane, the smaller gets bumped out of the path of the larger, either below the path of
the larger moon, or most often farther away from the planet.
In moons that have found themselves trailing their planet, this bumping takes the form of increased circular
motion. The moons are already moving in a circular path, caused as we have mentioned by attractants in the
vicinity which they are chasing toward and overshooting while still bound to their gravitational master. The
swirling is increased as each time a larger moon attempts to approach its planet, it encounters other moons