BUDD:
I know. Calvin, the people (the UFO occupants) that took you in, is this why you hadn’t really had a chance to say something to them. Let’s just say right now that you could say something to them, right now, a chance to say something to them, what would you to them at this point when they took you in there, what would you say. How did you feel when they took you in?
CALVIN:
Leave me the fuck alone.
BUDD:
Okay. They had no right to do that did they?
CALVIN: No.
BUDD:
Did they ask your permission? No. BUDD:
Tell me your feelings (inaudible)….what happens, when you’re standing, what happen next, the body’s gonna remember very, very well, the very next thing you feel. (inaudible)…what’s gonna happen?
CALVIN :
There’s some kind of electrical, electrical charge. My feelings are coming back to my body but I can’t move. I can feel everything in there and it’s cold, it’s really cold and there’s the electricity, you could feel it coming through your body, the electrical charges, but it don’t hurt or anything. Some kind of little ball is dancing around.
BUDD:
Is it pretty?
CALVIN:
It’s really pretty. It, it gives me a feeling of peace, then I’m being told what?
BUDD:
You’ve been told….? CALVIN :
I’m being pulled now, being pulled and I hear a noise, a loud noise, it sounds like an airrelease and then I’m pulled and turned around.
BUDD:
What’s doing the pulling? I don’t know. I can’t see.
BUDD:
Does it feel like a hand pulling you, that kind of thing? CALVIN :
No. It’s like a magnet was pulling to this thing. All I can do is see to the side, I remember seeing to the side.
BUDD:
Yeah, okay.
CALVIN:
And pulled inside. BUDD:
Well you don’t just have your memory you can actually look around and see what you can see. You can move your eyes, you can’t move your head. Are you going through a doorway, or, how did you get it?
CALVIN:
No, I went through a doorway, a wide doorway, now I’m not afraid anymore.
BUDD: Okay. CALVIN :
I mean, I’m scared I mean, I’m wondering where I am, but I’m being pulled by something that I don’t know what’s pulling me and then I’m being strapped down, I’m strapped to this table, big black straps, there’s one around my legs, there’s one around my arms, there’s one on my stomach and then I’m left alone. Then I feel the adrenalin running through my body. I don’t know if I can break these straps and breaking these straps if it’s the last thing I do. And I’m able to tug on them and I’m breaking them and I’m pulling on them, but I can’t break them. Now I’m afraid, now I know I have a problem, again, Lord just let me die, because I know this is gonna be a terrible death and that I’m doing, so Lord just let me die now and get it over with, 'cause there’s no need to go to go through a lot of pain, I don’t like pain. And then a heard a noise and the door opened and then a sense of peace come all over me, I’m feeling real peaceful now, I feel like the struggles are over, I feel like, I’m not able to move anymore, for some reason I can’t move in any direction, I just lay with my head forward and look, ugh, boy this bitch is ugly. And I remember seeing a mask, yeah, she’s got a mask on, I can see a mask, she’s wearing a mask. Now as I was able to talk now.
BUDD :
Just now relax and take it very, very easy, deep breathes now Calvin. At this point, you’ve come to this point, take it very, very easy, (inaudible)…….you can feel (inaudible)……there you are, you can feel the straps, but you’re feeling very peaceful, you look at her and you feel like you can talk. Do you say something to her?
CALVIN: Uh, uh.
BUDD:
What do you say to her, just look at her, what are you saying, what did you say?
CALVIN:
(Raise’s his voice) Who are you? That’s all I said, that’s all I could say, who are you? BUDD:
Did she answer? She stuck her finger in my nose and she, I don’t know what, she’s got an attitude though, she’s got a bad attitude. Just as soon as I get loose I’m fixing to twist her head off. A real serious attitude on that bitch.
BUDD:
Who do you think she is? What’s going through your mind when you look at her?
CALVIN: I’ve seen her before, I’ve seen pictures before.
BUDD:
You’ve actually seen her particularly before, you might have?
CALVIN:
I’ve seen her before, I really hate her, I hate her. BUDD:
Let’s just go with that for a second, I want you to get that sense of (inaudible)….and then I want you to look down at yourself and get a look of how you are, look up and down, are you a boy, are you a teenager…when did you see her before?
CALVIN:
Erm, I just turned 6 years old, it’s November 7th.
BUDD:
(Inaudible). CALVIN :
I’m in bed with my brother, I sleep with my brother now, 'cause we’ve got a small house and he’s sad about wetting the bed and I, I usually sleep on the floor, but he was just over 12 years old, so he had wet the bed and I had got up and laid down on the floor with a blanket and I seen her.
BUDD:
Who. Is he (inaudible)...right now?
CALVIN:
I don’t know.
Cassette tape, side two.
BUDD:
(Inaudible). CALVIN :
That I know her, I’ve been knowing her for a long time and she’s evil and I’m very afraid of her.
BUDD :
Let me ask you one thing, (inaudible, the tape is very quiet and I cannot make out what Budd is saying)…..has she ever touched you?
CALVIN:
I don’t know, I don’t know. I seen her though all the time.
BUDD:
Do you only see her in the bedroom or do you see her other places?
CALVIN:
No, lots of other places. Do you have a nice place where you’ve seen her? CALVIN :
On Pearl River, fishing one night with Charlie Hickson. (Inaudible)….my father, my brother and I ran out of the woods, I’d seen her, I come running out of the woods and I told them there’s a ghost in the woods, no one believed me, they all laughed about it.
BUDD:
How long (inaudible)?
CALVIN:
Erm, well 5, 6 years old, I don’t remember.
BUDD:
Still a little boy?
CALVIN:
Still a little kid. BUDD :
Okay, let’s move back (inaudible)….let’s move back to 1973, in that room and she’s looking at you and you say she’s really got an attitude, (inaudible)….let’s see what she does. She put her finger in your nose?
CALVIN:
Yeah, she’s got her finger up my nose.
BUDD:
Let’s just see what that feels like, that finger. I don’t…..
BUDD:
A long thin finger, a thick finger, a stubby finger?
CALVIN: Long, thin,
but I don’t have any feelings, I just know that she’s put her finger up my nose.
BUDD:
Feels like (inaudible)….finger. Feels like she’s inserting something…a short distance?
CALVIN: Ah, ah.
BUDD:
(Inaudible)….Not that far. CALVIN:
And she has something in her hand, (inaudible) ….she’s takes the thing down my nose (inaudible) around my nose and she’s reaching for my lip. And she pulls my lip up and I feel a stinging and my, my blood pressure, I don’t know what it is and I can’t catch my breath and I’m bleeding and my lip is bleeding and I remember my prayer (inaudible) …what it is. And then the blood just starts rolling, it rolls and (inaudible)……face and she grabs me by the side of the face (inaudib
le). And all I could think of was killing her, but I knew that I was gonna die in there, (inaudible). Then everything just settles down, so, I just kinda, lowered back down.
Now your senses are very, very sharp and clear. Now you know that Charlie has been with you. Do you hear any sounds that would suggest that Charlie is somewhere nearby. Any noises?
CALVIN :
No sounds, no noises except for, sounds like rain dripping into a bucket, just a steady drip, drip, drip, drip.
BUDD:
Let’s just see if you could hear Charlie call you.
CALVIN:
I don’t hear Charlie.
BUDD:
Okay. (inaudible)…What’s this dripping is this close to you (inaudible)? CALVIN:
Close, real close. I’m thinking its blood, my right hand. That bitch just cut my right hand now, I’m bleeding, just a steady drip of blood onto the floor, I can see it, she’s sat there. On the outside of my right hand, she’s cut it. She’s really just pushing me now too far, I will get out of these straps, I will get a hold of her now. There’s no doubt and I’m just fighting with everything I got in me now, because this is getting like, this strictly is not right.
BUDD :
I’m sure it’s not. She has no right to do this to you without asking your permission. And I don’t know what it is she put in my right hand. And I remember seeing it and I see it now, black and it almost resembles a needle. And there’s a serious cut and now she’s cutting it, it’s really bleeding now; she’s cutting into my right hand, right on the outside. And then, it’s like a miracle, it’s just quit bleeding and it’s healed.
BUDD: Okay.
CALVIN:
But there’s some object, definitely still there, it’s in my hand.
BUDD:
There’s an object inside your hand?
CALVIN:
Yeah, she put it in there. BUDD :
Okay, you will be able to tell us exactly where that is and you can point that out to me. Okay, just concentrate where that is in the hand and you can point that out to me. (Inaudible).
CALVIN :
She’s cleaning my feet and I can see her, she’s pulling and tugging and I don’t know, I don’t know what she’s doing, she’s, but I feel a real serious pain in my left foot where she’s pulling (inaudible)….she’s really pulling me with some little, and my shoe fell off. And now she’s undone a strap, all the straps, she’s taking the straps off and this is my time to get out of here now, time to go. Tell her adios, I’m going and now I can’t move, just here, the straps are gone but I can’t move. She’s trying to pull my clothes off and I still can’t move, yet for some reason I just pushed up on my heels and helped her, I’m in total agreement with everything she’s doing now. I don’t care what she (gap in tape for some unknown reason.). I don’t know what this is, I don’t know what she’s trying to do now but it looks pretty serious to me. I can see her sitting her head up and I’m looking now, staring at her. Clothes is down, got blood all over the front of my shirt, and I guess she’s a little (inaudible……..I just wish she’d go ahead and leave me alone, ugh, (inaudible)…..oh, damn, it’s burning all over, it’s going all over. It does, it’s burning. It feels like the blood was pumped out of me, lead inside. She put hot.
BUDD:
Were you (inaudible)?
CALVIN:
(inaudible)…Christ, oohhhh. (Calvin makes an uneasy noise as if he’s in severe pain).
BUDD:
Easy, easy, you’re okay Calvin.
CALVIN:
(Still makes an awful noise as if suffering in some way). BUDD:
Easy, take a deep breath. (Calvin’s can still be heard making a noise as if in great discomfort and pain). I’m gonna put my hand on your shoulder, as soon as you feel my hand on you shoulder you can breathe, feel my hand on your shoulder you can breathe now, feel, the breath is coming back, your breath is coming back, feel my hand on your shoulder, breath is coming back. Okay, it feels much better, that was bad but now easing off, easing off, easing off (in the background you can hear Calvin’s breathing returning to normal), easing off, you can breathe. That was tough but it’s in the past, now it’s in the past, you’re okay. Tell me what you think happened there; we don’t have to do that again. Just what you feel happened, what do you think happened?
She’s injected something (inaudible).
BUDD:
Where did inject it?
CALVIN:
In the side of my hand.
BUDD:
Did you feel something going in? CALVIN :
Oh yeah, it was going in and then I felt blood coming out, warm blood. I feel like she changed all my blood out of my veins, I’ve never felt anything that hot (inaudible)….in all my life.
BUDD:
Did you feel it all the way in your hands, your arms and your feet?
CALVIN:
It was all over.
BUDD:
All over your whole body? CALVIN:
Even the bottom of my fingers felt like they’d just exploded. Well she’s done it now; (inaudible)….She’s leaving now. I’m able to move, I start to feel a little bit better. It still hurts; oh boy does it hurt bad.
Does it hurt all through your body or is it just in the one place where she injected?
CALVIN: All over.
BUDD:
The whole body? CALVIN :
Uh, uh. All over. I’m able to get up now, I’m getting up now and I look at the table but it’s not a table, I don’t know what it is, it’s clear, all the way, but it’s not glass. I put my shoe on and I pull up my pants.
BUDD :
There’s one thing I want you to do when you’re getting ready there, Calvin, look around and you might see something similar that looks like writing, some kind of funny writing, you might see something like that or maybe you don’t see anything like that, look around and see if you notice anything. On the table or on the wall, or anything, something that looks like kind of funny writing.
CALVIN:
Ain’t writing.
BUDD:
You don’t see anything, okay.
CALVIN: No writing. Okay. Maybe there’s nothing to see then, okay.
CALVIN: I see me.
BUDD:
Okay. You see you. You’re getting up there and you get your shoe back on?
CALVIN: Uh, uh.
BUDD:
You get your pants back on and everything. What do you feel like doing now? CALVIN :
I’m looking at, I’m looking around, I’m looking at the ceiling, I’m looking at the floor and I’m looking around for a door to get out, I know I came through a door. But I see me in a mirror, but I also see something else in the mirror, I’m not there by myself. I have a real strange feeling that I’m being watched, I’m being watched, that’s what I’m feeling, it’s more than that.
BUDD:
Do you think one person’s watching or two, or more?
CALVIN:
No, watch, just watching. BUDD :
Just watching? Electricity is bouncing off of the walls (inaudible)…little balls of electricity just bouncing and bouncing. I remember dodging them; I was dodging them there from one side to the other.
BUDD:
When you look in that mirror do you think you can actually see faces in there?
CALVIN:
Oh yeah there’s faces all in there.
BUDD:
What do they look like? CALVIN :
I don’t know but there’s faces in there. There’s faces all in there. But she’s coming back in the room, the door opens and I can leave. She walked in and I grabbed her. I got her round her skinny - ass little neck and I’m choking her right now and she’s fixing to go with me. And I’m beating her head against this mirror and there’s some kind of black stuff, yuk, coming out. And then through the door the thing that brought me in and I felt a stinging again.
BUDD:
Where’s that black stuff coming from, look at the face?
She’s got ears; it’s coming out of her ears. BUDD :
She’s got big ears, little ears? Oh, she’s got ears like, like us guys, (inaudible)….bigger, she’s skinny, a skinny little thing.
BUDD:
What color hair does she have?
CALVIN:
Her hair was bluish-green, but the lights were bluish-green.
BUDD:
Right, so it’s hard to tell?
CALVIN: Right.
BUDD:
Was her hair loose and curly?
CALVIN:
Yeah, yeah, loose and curly, a lot less of it though. BUDD:
Now take one last look; I’m going to ask you one last question about her. Do you think you’ve seen her in the past couple of years?
CALVIN:
Yes, I’ve seen her. No, no, I haven’t seen her. No. BUDD:
Why did you say yes and then you said no Calvin, you said yes first? No, I didn’t see her, I seen whatever came through the door with me, I seen him again, him again.
BUDD:
Where did you see him?
CALVIN:
A few years ago.
BUDD:
Where was that?
CALVIN:
I’m laid down.
BUDD:
re you at home or in your car or are you walking.
CALVIN:
Uh, I was walking? BUDD :
Can you tell me about a little bit more about that later, I just want to go back to one thing, you went to a party recently, a support group meeting, do you remember those people at that meeting?
CALVIN: Uh, uh.
Who’d you see? CALVIN :
I seen a woman, a woman that I seen, on the ship. Not on a ship, a ship and I see her, but I see through her, she’s wicked.
BUDD :
Did she say anything to you at the party, did you (inaudible)….this one, at the support group I mean?
CALVIN :
She stared at me and she’s mad, I can read her thoughts, I’m reading her thoughts, she’s mad because I was supposed to come alone, she wanted me to come here alone, because she wants to kill me.
BUDD:
Well, she maybe wanted you to think that but it don’t mean…
CALVIN:
No, she wants to kill me. BUDD :
Well, maybe she wants you to think that Calvin, but you’ve got to be careful in any sense but I don’t think that’s probably real, she’s just wants you to feel that. You remember more about that, let’s go back to the room now and you’ve been hitting that lady, woman, and black stuff is coming out of her ears and then this man came in and he stung your arm, what does he do now?
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