by Nancy Lieder
ZetaTalk: Mainstay for Others
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ZetaTalk: Mainstay for Others
Note: written prior to July 15, 1995
During the cataclysms those already operating in the 4th Density Service-to-Other orientation, spiritually speaking,
have an offer from ourselves and our brethren in the Service-to-Others camps, to be lifted to safety during the
cataclysms. This is, in essence, what the Bible is referring to as the Rapture, although this is much misinterpreted to
mean a saving of the faithful. This lift is very temporary, and those so assisted will not even be conscious of it.
However, in spite of the brief time involved, most, the vast majority in fact, have declined. Why is this? The Service-
to-Others almost invariable have loved ones in their lives who do not qualify - wives and husbands, children and
grandchildren, and friends, co-workers, and even acquaintances and neighbors.
The time of most need is when the tidal waves and earthquakes hit, and the firestorms and trash in the comets tail
sweep the Earth. It is then that they wish to be with those they care for, to reduce fear and anxiety, knowing that these
emotions can lead one astray, into the Service-to-Self camp. Often times the Service-to-Others individual, in the
minority on Earth, is the one who acts as a mainstay for others. They are seldom the one rewarded or applauded, and
most often the one quietly plugging away, supporting others. Look around you, and you will find them, though you
must often look behind the scenes. Take these individuals away, and put the rest in a great crisis, and you will see why
our offer of rescue has been declined.
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ZetaTalk: Devastated Cities
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ZetaTalk: Devastated Cities
Note: written prior to July 15, 1995
The stories about Atlantis, which has never been found, are supported by myths of great cities destroyed suddenly by
rising water. Well, that of course happens extensively all over the world every time there is a pole shift. Cities in the
main are established on coastlines and broad rivers, where fish and transportation ease abound. When the massive tidal
waves slosh back and forth, these cities do slip under the rising water and are utterly decimated. The cities are
destroyed, completely. Buildings that remain are not repaired, as there are no hands to do so. They crumble under the
weather, stones eroding and covered by blowing volcanic dust and eventually rooting plants as the endless rains have
made the volcanic dust into inviting soil.
On mainland China there are remnants of ancient civilizations, and the stories of their past glory seems to exceed the
humble peasantry of today. Was there a great civilization that fell? Yes, as on all continents during the pole shifts, the
devastation is so great that cities essentially are brought to dust. China of the past was in keeping with the Chinese
people, who are intelligent and diligent. But their development was no more impressive than what they have today. Of
course, there are places where today there is but a village, the inhabitants of which can scarce do more than tend to
their fields for survival. And if there are traces that indicate a great city once stood nearby, one could postulate that
mankind fell. However, after the pole shifts the few survivors regularly migrate, constantly, seeking to escape the
gloom and constant rainfall which is everywhere. Of course the survivors disappeared. They went elsewhere.
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ZetaTalk: Machine Age
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ZetaTalk: Machine Age
Note: written on Apr 15, 1999.
Consider what is necessary to run the average manufacturing plant, which runs heavy machinery. Gears, metal plates -
it all looks quite solid. Lets say the building stands after the pole shift, having been retrofitted and braced, and the
machinery itself is pretty durable. Some parts break, but one can replace them, so why would it not run?
There are factors in this scenario that are not being considered. All the necessary small parts, the lubricants and
additives, that will not be available. Most lubricants are necessary, to maintain a certain chemical balance, or there is
corrosion. Without these lubricants, parts burn out, wear out, and you can't simply pour water or any chemical in, you
need a particular chemical. The chemical industry will be very hard hit, as much of their stores are liquid and will
burst, spray, disburse, and require specialized ingredients to create in the first place. So you back up, endlessly, and
anytime there is a break in the link, the link is broken and affects everything downstream. So it all goes down the
chain. Even a tiny broken part can stop the process, as perhaps a particular metal or particular alloy is needed. Without
this a particular function won't occur, an electrical impulse will not occur, or an etching will not occur. If that alloy is
missing, all the rest of the machinery becomes idle, and simply is not effective. And if it's not effective, what is the
point of maintaining it.
What motive is there for staying and maintaining this factory? Who is going to feed the workers, or pay their salary?
There is simply no flow of money. Bridges are down. The grid is down. The government is in chaos, and gone off to
huddle and get drunk and discuss among themselves. Workers do not come out of loyalty, starving to death, to keep a
corporate fat cat in business. They go off, attempting to find food for themselves. If the industry loses its skills, what
occurs? Any industry that finds that its skilled workers are no longer available fails! This is a common fact, and one
reason that bringing immigrants into the US, educated and with a skill set, is considered a necessity. 3rd World
countries can't even get started unless they have this educated skill set. If it goes off, because its more important to
feed the family than keep the boss in power, who's going to run the factory?
It's for these reasons that industry will not run, but will go idle. There are cities discovered in Central American and in
China, found under the jungles or under the shifting sands, with no explanation for where the inhabitants went. These
were great cities with grand steps. They had irrigation, water flowing through the city, so why did it collapse? Was it a
great plague? Was it a terrible drought? Did someone come and slaughter them all? These are remnants of pole shifts,
where great civilizations have fallen in the past. The survivors wander, in search of a better life. They are often
confused, as they don't know what has hit them. They are sure this is a local event and they are off to find out where
the sun is shining and the grain is growing. They all wander. So your industries will be idle, for these reasons.
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ZetaTalk: New Energy
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ZetaTalk: New Energy
Note: written prior to July 15, 1995
For ourselves, the Service-to-Others Zetas, to describe the new forms of energy would be to steal the thunder from
those humans who are so diligently working to bring this to the Earth at the present time. Remember, Earth is in the
hands of humans, now. Her immediate future rests in t
he hands of humans, and none other. For the immediate future
of human society to improve requires the cooperation and intervention of humans. And these things are in the works.
Your forms of energy now are antique, or terribly crude. Burning oil and coal and wood, with all the pollution this
causes, is not at all necessary. Nuclear energy has a pollutant that is even more harmful, a byproduct man does not
know how to deal with. Yet clean forms of energy, known to mankind's scientists in the laboratories of today, are kept
from use by the establishment, which has a vested interest in continuing the status quo.
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ZetaTalk: Internet
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ZetaTalk: Internet
Note: written prior to July 15, 1995
The months before the cataclysms, satellite failure will be sporadic, but enough to impact technology as it support
lifestyles today. Land lines will be reliable, but cell phones will not. This will be most disconcerting to the power
brokers among the elite, who will find business floundering, stocks which have fallen almost to the ground unable to
be salvaged, and the reliance of the military on communications creating choas among those expected to protect the
elite. These groups will be screeching at each other, making shrill demands where no fix can be made. The little man,
the common man, will fare better, especially if they are using short wave technology. They will rely on this
increasingly, and it will be old hand and familiar by the time it is needed solely, for communication at a distance from
the site.
Computer networks will remain in place following the cataclysms in accordance with their structure. Any electrical
appliance protected from damage will operate after the cataclysms as before, provided a source of electricity is
available. Networks are another matter, as there are many parts to the whole, and in the main any breakage will disable
the whole - the weak link theory in action. Networks relying on wires run over the Earth cannot be expected to be
operational. Likewise, networks operating by satellite bounce will find themselves with a problem when the satellites
are torn from the skies. How then will computer networks operate? We would suggest that short wave radio networks
established by dish, not relying on satellites, may be a solution. From high point to high point on Earth, such a network
could operate after the cataclysms. And where the pole shift will affect land lines, which will be torn, and satellite
bounce, as the satellites will be ripped from the skies - short wave radio communication bouncing off the Moon or the
ionosphere will survive.
Cloud cover does not much affect this short wave communication, today, so the murky atmosphere and low cloud
cover will not prevent short wave communication in the years following the pole shift either. The ionosphere will
reform, within weeks of the pole shift, as this is a factor or the component of the atmosphere. Like the separation of oil
and water, which takes place after a bottle of salad dressing is violently shaken, the components find their level and re-
establish their relationship afterwards. The ionosphere will be lower, however, due to an overall loss of atmosphere
which will only gradually be replaced, which will require using a different angle during communication to achieve a
bounce. Thus, radio operators should adjust to their changed circumstances after the pole shift as they would in any
changed circumstances today, using the same approach and choosing their techniques accordingly.
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ZetaTalk: Worthless Money
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ZetaTalk: Worthless Money
Note: written prior to July 15, 1995
Money will begin to lose its value long before the cataclysms hit. This will be worldwide, and in almost all human
cultures. Why should this be the case, when, as we have stated, the majority of humanity will either be unaware of the
coming cataclysms or in denial? The financial structure of the world's financial empires is really quite fragile. Look to
the swings of the stock markets, the bond markets, and other speculations. Panic sets in at a moment's notice. The
problem is that financial matters are based on human perceptions of worth. This moves about, even in the most stable
of times. The value of an item increases during shortage, plummets during times of plenty, and otherwise is affected by
various perceptions of being in the right place at the right time. There are gamblers aplenty in the financial arenas.
One of the reasons that financial giants among the elite seek to negate awareness of the alien presence is their fear of
the repercussions on the financial markets. If they cannot negate awareness, they seek to minimize panic. Look to
history, to see how little it took to create financial panics. What with the millennium approaching, and all the dire
predictions made by many, true or untrue, many people worldwide will be on edge. Add to this the increasing crop
failures, with consequent food shortages, affecting the markets in commodities.
Humans of good heart concerned with survival through the cataclysms are advised not to look to the money markets
for assistance. Put your money into land and stable structures, documentation on the technologies and scientific
knowledge of today, and apparatus with which to grow hydroponic vegetables and tanks for fish and crustaceans on
the nutrients from recycled sewage.
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ZetaTalk: Vortex
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ZetaTalk: Vortex
Note: written on Aug 15, 1995. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
Vortex is a constant state not unlike the electromagnetic state. All worlds have such a state, and the sum of the
planetary vortexes compose the vortex of a given solar system. The use of this word, in true channeled works,
portrayed this concept accurately enough, but some readers read with their desires, rather than with open eyes and
minds, and consequently grasped something different when reading about the influence the 12th Planet of your Solar
System has when making its periodic swing in comet-like fashion past the Earth. The vortex of the 12th Planet disturbs
the influence the other planets have on the Earth, causing a temporary re-alignment with the 12th Planet - a pole shift.
Some readers misread this information as a chance to go for a quick ride to Heaven, and invented the term Vortexia to
describe a state purported to advance a world into higher densities. There is no such state as Vortexia, nor is there any
such rapid advance into higher densities available to those who seek this panacea.
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ZetaTalk: Polar Heatwave
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ZetaTalk: Polar Heatwave
Note: written on Nov 15, 1998.
Recent research by human scientists into polar ice cores have revealed that a few thousand years ago the ice caps
experienced a rapid increase in temperature, at time up to 50 to 70 degrees, and this over a few months or years. Of
course the temperature did not rise such that poles were experiencing an increase to this degree, el
se what would the
temperature have been at the equator? Your equator would have been cooked, with a massive die-off. The animal and
plant species, the fauna and flora, would have thereafter been from the temperate regions, growing into the equator. Is
this what your Earth presents? Obviously your tropical forests have been around for eons. They are well established.
Fossils show their progression. They did not die out, nor did they spring forth within the last mere 12,000 years.
The analysis is correct, and the physical evidence undeniable, but the conclusions are flawed. The Earth’s crust moved,
such that the poles, where they were placed 12,000 years ago (and this human estimate is not an accurate year
measure), shifted to a slightly warmer position. If the poles were to be in mid-Canada, for instance, for a period of
time, and then shift back to where the poles are today, the ice cores would represent such a change. Your frozen
mastodons, within the polar circle, have grass within their bellies, showing that they grazed meadows at one point in
the recent past, within 10,000 years or so as human scientists have estimated. This falls nicely in line with this new
evidence. The crust does shift, and this accounts for wandering poles, and thus the evidence makes sense. You will not
see such a temperature rise. Most certainly not.
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ZetaTalk: Shift Meltdown
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ZetaTalk: Shift Meltdown
Note: written during the August 31, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
Mankind in their calculations puts only a few factors into their equations, not the scope of factors that will be operand.
Thus, they assume a wind speed during the shift which assumes the atmosphere not moving with the Earth. Why?
Only their inability to comprehend what we have patiently explained, that air moves with the Earth, in the main. Does
it not move now, during rotation? Does the wind howl as the Earth rotates, scouring the globe clean? No! But these