by Nancy Lieder
core of the Earth as it passes over the Earth on the way to a viewer, it will bend toward the sun!
As can be seen on the graphic done for the Point of Passage page early in ZetaTalk history, Planet X is coming toward
the Sun from beneath the Sun, as well as from the side. Thus, the bending red light, orange, bends both up and in
predominantly. Those rays that encounter Earth’s gravity will then bend back toward Earth, from a position both
above the coordinate position, and closer to the Sun. This allows visibility earlier in the day for the Red Persona, and
due to the tendency of orange light to bend, the Red Persona as a second sun will appear on the horizon as a glow well
ahead of the visibility of the corpus itself. Will it only be in the dawn that this second sun is identified? Dawn and
dusk will be the best times for visibility, and noon the worst, as light pollution is strongest at noon. As with all other
viewing, this depends immensely on the viewers location, determination, and clear skies.
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ZetaTalk: Periodic Passage
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ZetaTalk: Periodic Passage
Note: written during the Live ZetaTalk IRC session on Dec 15, 2001. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the
same.
At present the 12th Planet, aka Planet X, is almost as tiny as Pluto while reflecting less light. In size, it is larger than
Pluto as it is surrounded by a halo of dust and swirling moons. But due to its size and primarily the dim light currently
emitted and arriving at your eye, you need a lot of help in seeing this inbound planet. Until mid-2002 you should go to
your local observatory to see the 12th Planet. This is because observatories enhance visibility in a number of ways.
1. they are positioned for good visibility, excluding light pollution and clouds.
2. they enhance this visibility by long tubes, which take in only the light from the part of the sky scanned.
3. they increase the visibility of this portion of sky by magnifying, which means every pixel is increased to be
several pixels.
4. they can take images, have the equipment available, that are of better quality than less expensive equipment.
5. in many cases they have infrared equipment, or filtering equipment, that would allow them to screen for infrared
or red spectrum light.
Thus, until Mid-2002, astronomers or those determined to look for themselves will not have much luck. Between that
date and the 7 week prior [Note: see 2003 Date explanation. It became visible naked eye on March 26, 2003.] to the shift period when all will be able to see the 12th Planet, with or without scopes, there will be gradual increase such that amateurs will
begin to see it. Until we reach that date, we will hold off on the details, as giving too much ammunition to the enemy
allows them to arm themselves against this information. Amateurs will not be kept waiting, as we will provide the
information and specs in time, for them, to succeed.
As the 12th Planet approaches, the key characteristic to look for will be the reddish glow. This will at first be called a
nova, with whatever nova characteristic would give a reddish appearance. However, novas don't move, nor last long,
so the fact that this one continues, and moves, will cause other explanations to be forthcoming. When the 12th Planet
passes, it will take on the appearance that the ancients described as a fire dragon in the sky. The swirling moons create
a tail, of sorts. Due to the manner in which the human eye receives light, it will take on the appearance of a cross, as
the ancients also recorded. This is not unlike looking at the stars, or squinting at bright lights, when it is easy to make
them appear as a cross. Thus, the most distinguishing characteristic is the reddish appearance, fairly unique in the sky.
Second, it moves, in accordance with our coordinates. Third, it will grow in size, while moving. Fourth, it will be
accompanied by Earth changes, quakes and activating volcanoes, so that the two cannot be separated in most minds.
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ZetaTalk: Time Frame
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ZetaTalk: Time Frame
Note: written prior to July 15, 1995
Regarding the accuracy of our prediction, late spring, early summer, in the year 2003. This cannot be pinned down to
the day. Where the comet and the Earth are interacting, and in proximity of each other, the exact moment of slippage
is determined by many things. The exact placement of the continents when the Earth's rotation slows to a stop. How
much the inner core of the Earth churns before the crust of the Earth slips. These are matters that one cannot predict
exactly, as there are too many variables at play.
The comet will be visible to the eye for approximately 7.3 weeks [Note: see 2003 Date explanation. It became visible to the naked eye March 26, 2003.], certainly no less than 43 days, prior to the great gravitational and magnetic disruption we have
described. All will be aware of it, though most will discount its presence. As we have mentioned, most of humanity
will be either in denial or too harried to notice or care. The comet is already known and visible to your government,
and others. They are discussing this among themselves now. What the governments of the world chose to say to their
populace is not known - this is a matter of free will, and any guess made at this time could prove false. We have
chosen to warn people. Those who wish to act can do so. Those who chose to ignore have made their choice for
themselves and their loved ones. Those who cannot act, due to a lack of capacity, can make their peace.
The comet makes its appearance periodically, on average each 3,657 years. The variation is due not to any situation of
your Solar System, but to the gravitational pull of planetary bodies that weave into the comets path when away from
your Solar System. We would recommend you read some of the literature that has been written about the periodic
nature of this comet, which can also be described as a planet of your Solar System. Your Earth, in its geological
evidence, stands witness to the periodic nature of the comet's appearance.
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ZetaTalk: Why May 15?
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ZetaTalk: Why May 15?
written Oct 17, 2003
As will be noted on the constellation lineup that Nancy has provided, May 15 was a date when the elite, the establishment in power
worldwide that controls not only the ebb and flow of finances to countries and corporations but also controls who survives in politics,
could be fooled. As was stated on Sep 21 when it became clear that they continue to drive blind, a body coming into the solar system and positioning itself near the Sun is difficult to view, from Earth, and requires triangulation of probes sent out to points afar. They did
not have this view going into May 15, and have not had it since, as all their probes met with accidents arranged by us or our brethren.
We chose May 15 because leading into that date, as can be seen by the constellation backdrop to the Sun leading into that date and in
the two months following, the path of Planet X would be so close to the Sun that it would be difficult to determine if it was behind,
beside, or in front of the Sun. This may seem astonishing to those accustomed to thinking tha
t the whereabouts of stars and planets are
always precisely known, but Planet X presents itself as many ghosts, the bending red light rays presenting personas afar from the actual
corpus, the extensive dust clouds and numerous moon swirls often coalescing into what appears to be a body, so that visual
identification of the corpus is difficult. They required infrared, an identification of heat source, and on August 25 lofted a probe so
armed, but this quickly met with failure too. If a recent attempt to nuke Planet X into a sharper orbit, to send it on a sharper retrograde orbit so that a clash with Earth, now so eminent, could be avoided, was hampered by the lack of precision on location, where were they
on May 15?
As has been explained previously, all ZetaTalk information keyed to the May 15 date was part of the White Lie. This included the 7.3
weeks of naked eye visibility leading up to that date, so that when naked eye viewing of a red light fading in and out at our coordinates
became visible in very late March, this brought weight to the May 15 date. All was designed to fool the establishment. We avoided,
scrupulously, any efforts during the Spring of 2003 to pin us down to distance, allowing humans to speculate on the distance from Earth instead. We also refused to address the exact speed of Planet X, preferring to talk in general terms, stating it was a rapid approach to the outer edges of the solar system, and much slower when approaching the Sun due to the Repulsion Force effect. Nancy has pointed out
several clues that May 15 was not and could not have been the date, in that we have stated in ZetaTalk that Planet X would dive 32°
below the Ecliptic prior to passage and at May 15, 2003 our coordinates had only dropped to 7° below the Ecliptic. We also stated
firmly in Nov, 2001, that no date would be given as it would allow the establishment to mistreat the populace.
However, in that something was in view, approaching, going into May 15, and rapidly increasing in size, the NASA crew braced for a
rapid rotation slowdown and subsequent passage, and had their probes armed with nuclear material at the ready, for that week. Did they
attempt to nuke it into a different path that week? Yes. What they found, of course, was no Planet X in the vicinity, so the nukes were
diverted into outer space, harmless in any case as a signal from Earth was required to ignite them, even should they some day fall to
Earth. Any concern about a flash seen from Earth was to be handled by Martial Law, as operation TOPOFF was in full effect, and was
followed by a lingering level Orange alert, allowing Homeland Security to go to level Red at a moments notice. This showed their hand,
their intentions, to imprison the populace in their homes, not inform them, and prevent them from migrating to safety as this would
inconvenience the elite in their personal preparations. Had any other date been given, say March 15, or July 15, the approach of Planet X
would have been discernible, our White Lie disproved, as the angle from Earth would have allowed motion to be detected across the
skies, rather than a direct head-on approach which disguised the distance. Following May 15 the confusion continued, as Planet X was
rapidly zooming in from the outer edges of the solar system at that time, zooming up to the Sun, diving 32° below and swinging
retrograde around the Sun as it passed, thence rising to the Ecliptic after the pass. Why did it appear next to the Sun during all this time?
The very bendable red light rays from Planet X head toward the greatest gravity draw, which is the Sun, and only those rays diverted
toward Earth during this bending path show up on photos or are received, naked eye, by the viewer. Thus, it appeared to be close to the
Sun, when it was not.
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ZetaTalk: Why May 15?
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ZetaTalk: White Lie, May 23, 2003
ZetaTalk: White Lie
written May 23, 2003
As can be seen from the actions of the US and Indonesian governments scant days ahead of and continuing after our
announced date of May 15, 2003, they fully intend to harm hundred of millions of their citizens through martial law, declared such in Indonesia and called terrorism level Red by Homeland Security. What is martial law, if not ordering
citizens to remain in their homes? What effect does this have on citizens about within cities where buildings will
tumble and crush them, or along coast or in lowlands sure to be inundated by tidal waves? Death, injury with no
rescue, and massive dieoff. Is this the intent of those in command in those governments, sworn to protect their citizens
and collecting taxes to this end? There can be no doubt, and one has only to read the actions of these governments to
ascertain this.
Why did we allow Nancy, who has labored though the mine field and put herself at risk with ZetaTalk, to be so
humiliated as to announce to a broad audience live radio show very specific dates, which were promptly missed? At a
time when Planet X is so close as to be competing with the Sun at noon, visible by the unaided eye, and well tracked
to this point by many sunrise and sunset sightings and photos, in the manner and in the time frame we predicted, and at
a time when earthquakes have increased to the point, as we predicted, to being noticeable, affecting population centers
so they cannot be denied by underreporting in the quake databases, the bad dates stand as an exception. And what is
the effect of this gambit, an acknowledged white lie on our part, on those in the US and Indonesian governments who
would murder their citizens by the hundreds of millions?
They cannot closely coordinate blocking a city for a specific date and time, thus having to either order a
perpetual state of readiness or be prepared to muster a quick blockade, neither workable.
They must either share the true agenda with numerous local agencies, in order to have cooperation for a quick
muster, or anticipate failure when calling a sudden and unplanned blockage.
Local agencies would be sympathetic to the local populace and rebellion would likely ensue.
A perpetual state of readiness requires agencies to be focused only on exercises, and not distracted from their
regular work, and any natural disaster ensuing would shatter this state.
Natural disasters such as imploding buildings in the stretch zone, or strong quakes or volcanoes in compression
zones, would divert resources from the ready status waiting to blockade cities.
The governments increasingly have to explain the perpetual state of readiness, constant exercises, in the face of
a lack of actual terrorism, thus losing credibility among those required to carry out a blockade.
Incidences of natural disasters, and increasing visibility of Planet X, change the focus from tearooms to natural
disaster and thus an order to remain in their homes would seem inappropriate to citizens, who would rebel.
And what is the effect on the common man, being denied even at this late date any honest information on what is
about to devastate their lives?
For those waiting for an undeniable sight that the earth changes we have predicted, rotation stoppage followed by
red dusting will be that undeniable sign, and any announced date ignored until such signs are evident.
For those wanting to leave for a safe location ahead of rotation stoppage, but having ties to their ordinary life
and obligations, rapid earth changes such as earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, as well as a perceptible slowing
of rotation, will be their clue, regardless of published dates which are not palpa
ble.
For those who have made very early changes in their lives, moving to safe locations and settling in there, an
exact date is not crucial.
For the vast majority of mankind who has not even heard of a possible pole shift, announcing dates is irrelevant.
For the large portion of humanity who cannot move to safe locations or make changes in their lives, as their
lives are a struggle for subsistence on a daily basis, announced dates are irrelevant.
For those who are traveling, for work or pleasure, they have chosen to be out and about at this time, or to place
themselves in such a position by their employment choice, and thus are not taking the message seriously, nor
would they despite any announced dates.
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ZetaTalk: White Lie, May 23, 2003
Thus, an announced date, where it would be convenient, does not change the outcome of preparation for the common
man, where it would greatly be used by those who would murder their citizens, or take advantage of others, and thus
we decline to give any dates. Watching the earth changes, and the behavior of those in the corridors of power, will be
the best clues.
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ZetaTalk: 2003
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ZetaTalk: 2003
Note: written on Jun 15, 1999. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
How do you know that the sun is going to rise at approximately 6:37 AM on a given morning? You know this because
you take observations, and you take measures. How do you know how many miles you must walk on a familiar trip?
You can count the steps, or measure the distance, and you can verify this against maps drawn by other. You observe,
and take measures. We know that the 12th Planet will make its passage in late spring or early summer of the year 2003
[Note: see 2003 Date explanation] because we are observing the planet approaching your solar system. We were present when it came through last. This is as known to us as the setting of the sun and the rising of the sun is to you. We see