by Nancy Lieder
hundreds of millions by their own governments as they themselves panic and fear loss of control. How does this differ from the panic among those in control during the last days? What’s the difference? Death when one has made their
peace, said their goodbys, and done all they could to help others is far different from death experienced in a sudden horror, swamped by feelings of abandonment and the heartache of being unable to reach out to help otherstey love and care for.
During the months and years when the presence of Planet X has been stoutly
denied, despite a Second Sun dramatically seen by so many and a Moon wildly out
of orbit at times, many changes have occurred in the corridors of power around the
world. Gone are the expectations that an escape to Mars or into the solid rock
chambers on the dark side of the Moon might be possible. Gone are the
expectations that underground complexes would be safe. Gone are the expectations
that communications via satellites or low frequency ground waves might hold.
Increasingly, the establishment understands that their lot is hardly different from
the lot of the common man. We have stated that Martial Law is unlikely to be
called deliberately unless a firm date is known, as it is difficult to maintain for
more than a short period of time. Thus, no firm date, no Martial Law, but if the Element of Doubt is removed, utterly, then with or without a date, Martial Law would not only be imposed suddenly, but during a state of panic on all sides, with the gunning down of those in the streets, gassing the hoards from planes overhead, and entombment in cities
bombed all likely possibilities. Is panic only a possibility among the masses? Those in power are more prone to panic, as they fear more than the Earth changes, they fear losing power and the rage of those who have been lied to.
Compare this to the option of maintaining an Element of Doubt while the world slowly becomes aware that the Planet
X scenario is real, the End Times upon them, and prepares. Those who would impose Martial Law find their ranks
deteriorating, the resolve of those they command divided on the matter, and even the possibility of calling such
draconian measures reduced because the truth has been leaked, increasingly, and the populace already knows about the coming changes. Few cultures have no prophecy or folklore to guild them in this matter, and the facts of what can be seen by those willing to look are increasingly clear. Thus, a lingering Element of Doubt allows the populace to take the steps those in the Council of Worlds hopes will happen - spiritual decisions on whether to sacrifice in order to help others or continue down a self serving path, closure on goodbys that would otherwise result in hauntings by spirits http://www.zetatalk2.com/index/zeta189.htm[2/5/2012 11:36:46 AM]
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looking for closure, plans laid among those determined to survive in order to help others needing them in the
Aftertime. If the Council wants the populace of Earth to have this opportunity, what would it take to avoid the absolute certainty that something was amiss in the heavens, and that the establishment is withholding the truth?
while not preventing the ultimate outcome or the overall time frame, pace the movement of Planet X such that
the tilting and leaning and tipping of Earth simulates the seasons
while not avoiding the clash of planets that would occur naturally during the pole shift, scoot the minor planet
Venus about to simulate a normal orbit of a planet not caught in the cup
while not preventing the polar wobble that has the Sun in the wrong place for those observant, ensure that key dates such as a Solstice or Equinox have their traditional views.
What does this take, among those intelligent enough to be able to travel across the Universe in a wink, switch
densities, control gravity, create blackouts, and travel back in time? We have stated that the orbits are what they are due to particle flows, sweeping arms of particles from the Sun, blasts of particles not unlike the Solar Wind from the Sun that hold planets at bay in their orbits, gravity particles drifting back to the Sun pulling the planets toward the Sun and outbursts holding these same planets at a distance by the Repulsion Force. Do you think the Council cannot control particle flows, the magnetism that is causing the Earth wobble, or cannot bend light to its liking? Think again!
NewGrange, Ireland
The passage and chamber of Newgrange are illuminated by the winter solstice sunrise. A shaft of
sunlight shines through the roof box over the entrance and penetrates the passage to light up the
chamber. The dramatic event lasts for 17 minutes at dawn from the 19th to the 23rd of December.
The lucky people selected by lottery leaving the chamber at 9:22am. Sunrise over a standing stone
viewed from the entrance of Newgrange.
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ZetaTalk: Things vs People
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ZetaTalk: Things vs People
written June 27, 2004
I will present the question in logical stages. The Earth is a School for us to learn to become STOs and other lessons. The Zetas and Council of Worlds does not generally interfere so we can learn our lessons by ourselves. The date is not being given so that the establishment can not impose martial law, give
everyone a fair shake in surviving. Then what about this? The Zetas and Council have admitted that they
have Intervened for us, moving Venus, preventing another 911, no planting of WMD in Iraq, etc. Why can’t they just prevent the specific people involved from doing the damage? There are only a few that can
impose martial law and start the ball rolling. In this way, we all can learn about what is to come.
In a spiritual learning house, a schoolhouse for emerging souls, the prime directive is non-interference. This places a wealth of spontaneous experiences before the emerging souls, who develop empathy by being subject to various
painful situations. Empathy simply does not exist if a spirit has not been there, in its past. There is no need to list the situations mankind or any life form finds distressing, as the list is something that every incarnated soul struggling through a life is acutely aware of. Living with physical pain, dread or terror or abandonment and uncertainty, loss of a child or spouse, sudden setbacks, ridicule and expulsion from a group, the list is almost endless. At a certain point in the young souls development, birthing guides become involved to help shape the circumstances of the next incarnation, so the setting is one which will maximize opportunities for learning for this particular entity. The young soul might be placed into a starving country, or a place of wealth and power, into a body stricken with genetic disease or into a body capable of intimidating others. Nevertheless, the rule is non-interference with the incarnation, so the lessons to be learned stick as they are not theoretical, but very real to both the incarnated life form and the spirit within. A lesson well learned.
At a certain point in the progress of a world developing emerging souls, it on occasion becomes necessary to interfere further with circumstances, to maintain a proper balance for the first lesson that young souls are to learn, which results in their decision to be either Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self. A young soul in a constant state of fear struggles to get past this to the point of empathy, which is something the Service-to-Self masters, visiting the schoolhouse and waiting to be called as advisers, know. Thus, brutal intimidation, without any apparent hope of changing the situation, is something the Service-to-Self try to achieve in a developing world, but something the Council of Worlds prevents.
A balanced situation, where action can result in change for the better, so a young soul can perceive the result of their efforts to change a painful situation for others, is desired, and thus circumstances are manipulated in the schoolhouse to arrange for this. Likewise, a youn
g soul leaning toward the Service-to-Self orientation would find in a vicious
dictatorship over other young souls a false setting for the world they are heading toward. In the Service-to-Self worlds, all are solidly Service-to-Self, and not easily dominated. Thus, in a balanced schoolhouse, the Service-to-Self gang does not invariably win, and when the gang turns on each other, viciously, the true nature of living the Service-to-Self life style is learned.
In all these exceptions with the Rule of Non-Interference, manipulation is done to things, not the incarnated human or life form, and thus does not interfere with the setting the emerging young soul can control. The decisions by the entity, expressed into action by the incarnated human, are not interfered with, thus. In the current setting, where Martial Law is greatly desired by those wanting to sculpt the surviving populace, to give them the key ingredient they need, a firm date for rotation stoppage, would not prevent Martial Law. To do so would require not only the hundreds planning the murder of hundreds of millions by poisoning cities and blocking escape, but the thousands they control by edict, those under their command. Thus, a cascade of interference, not with things, the circumstances, but with people, not allowed to function as a self choice entity, would result. For those impatient with this situation, we would suggest that those preventing an announcement of a firm date may be countered by circumstances, overwhelmed by Earth changes and
exposes, but that day has not yet arrived.
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ZetaTalk: No Delay
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ZetaTalk: No Delay
written Aug 23, 2004
If the Zetas were able to move Venus to make the transit happen, what if they are preventing or moving
Planet X? In other words, can they or will they delay Planet X from happening? You know the story, about
the White Lie, fool me once, shame on you, etc.
We have often stated that the Council of Worlds views the periodic pole shifts that wrack the Earth to be a Natural
occurrence, an opportunity for spiritual growth in the schoolhouse Earth, like droughts and plagues and tornadoes and illness or accident striking unexpectedly. In these opportunities, man as an emerging spirit can either empathize with others caught in a plight or simply seek to enhance their own security, the many steps to be taken on the road to
determining a spiritual orientation of either Service-to-Others or Service-to-Self. If droughts and plagues are today not eliminated so as to give man a playground, rather than a schoolhouse, why would these rules change simply because
the impact will be greater, affecting civilization as a whole and not just single individuals or families? How is the loss of a spouse or parent, a life lived in pain or anguish, any less devastating simply because it happens to one, rather than to many? Is mercy and fairness weighed by volume, or by the pound, only tipping the scales when a certain weight is reached?
For those confused by how the rules work, exceptions are made only to provide a balanced schoolhouse for the souls emerging on Earth, not to alleviate stress by the pound. The 3rd Density lesson, your first lesson, should have a setting where there are advantages to caring for others as well as advantages in continuing in an infantile manner, caring only for yourself. The Council has interfered in mankind’s setting where severe intimidation, such as by the giant hominoids who inhabit the Planet of Passing, Planet X, made it almost impossible for emerging man to chose the Service-to-Other path. As slaves, in the mines, they had no escape, no hope of escape, and bullied by giants could only wonder in terror if they would survive another day. This was deemed an imbalanced setting without respite, and these giants were
encouraged to mine Mars and its moons, vacating Earth, eons ago, a Quarantine imposed. Such interference was likewise approved during the Venus Transit so the cracks in the cover-up would continue to creep, the doors of the cover-up not slam shut, as would be the case if the nervous cover-up artists were faced with angry questions from the astronomy community. In these interference’s, a pending painful situation is not removed, it is only deferred.
Would the Council delay the passage of Planet X, slowing its creep around the S. Pole of the Sun for some such
advantageous reason? No, nor do they block the weather, divert hurricanes or tornadoes, vaporize locust swarms, run flood waters backwards, or put a stopper in volcanoes. What would be the spiritual advantage, in a schoolhouse, in
having this delay? Would more individuals become empathetic if yet another flood stranded families, beyond the many opportunities they already have to reach out to and consider others? Have there not been floods and droughts and
bankruptcies and starvation aplenty in these recent months and years? Would more individuals hardened into a self
focused orientation make a change in course because they witnessed yet another tragedy affecting a neighbor? The
setting for spiritual choices is in place, and will be sharpened by the acute pain to be experienced during the shift. As is often the case, choices are made in such moments, when the choice is clarified. The screaming toddler stranded and about to drown, ignored rather than rescued by those thinking only of the risk to themselves. The trip back into a
burning building to try once again to free a stranded resident, who would be burned alive if not freed. These are the settings soon to be presented to mankind, with scarcely a soul spared these opportunities. And a delay is not an advantage.
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ZetaTalk: Engagement Rules
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Note: written by Jul 15, 1995.
Regarding the Rules of Engagement, an issue humans are not much aware of. We, the Zetas, as all groups alien to the Earth, are guided by the Rules of Engagement among ourselves. Humans are not so guided, being free to be
themselves in whatever manner they wish. Human societies set their own rules, groups within societies set their own rules, families set their own rules, and sometimes even individual humans, in setting about self improvement, make
their own personal rules.
Our rules, in regard to behavior on Earth, are determined by the Council of Worlds, which administer the goings on of intelligent life of all kinds, of whatever density, in this part of the Universe. These rules govern the expected clash between Service-to-Self and Service-to-Other oriented groups. Why are these rules necessary? Humans are a mixture,
being in the 3rd Density and in the process of choosing. They find the self-centered in the same vicinity as the
altruistic and empathetic. The rules of human society take this into account. Your laws on criminal behavior, for
instance, are an example of rules assuming a mix of Service-to-Self and Service-to-Others. They spell out what
criminal behavior is, when the line is crossed, and when one intrudes upon another.
In the Service-to-Self oriented groups after 3rd Density, all are, essentially, criminals. They are ruthless and utterly without scruples. They would prey upon each other endlessly. The control over each other is not by criminal rules, but by the rule of the strong. The pecking order is ruthlessly established, by whatever means necessary. Once established, this becomes the law. Essentially the rule of law is the long list of rules from the lawgiver. Democracy has absolutely nothing to do with this process. It is a dictatorship. Thus, as long as all new members are Service-to-Self, homeostasis is established. When in Rome, you do as the Romans do.
In the Service-to-Other oriented groups after 3rd Density, none wishes to hurt the other. Concern for the group, and others, is expected and delivered. Rules are not used to control here, either. Order is established by the group
discussing what needs to be done, and various members volunteerin
g. Communication regarding difficulties, requests
for assistance, and status on the ongoing concerns of the many are frequent. There are no secrets. There is no need to be defensive against each other, as all have common goals and none means to take advantage of the other. There are no locked doors. All turn their backs on each other without fear. Goods are not hoarded but shared. Service-to-Others
entities trust each other utterly, and this trust is not misplaced.
Mix these two groups together, and what would happen?
The Service-to-Self would endlessly take advantage of the Service-to-Other. To some degree, this takes place in your 3rd Density world. The self-centered moan that they are put upon, unfairly treated, are injured and need a lighter load, cut to the quick by some other's treatment of them, and all manner of ruses to take advantage of good hearted folk. In a world of Service-to-Others, where all have let down their guard to concentrate on mutual goals, assuming themselves surrounded by friends, this trust would prove disastrous. In short, the two groups cannot mix. The Service-to-Others, who usually prove to be the majority during any planetary evolution, are given guardianship of their perimeter.
You may choose to call this a type of quarantine of the Service-to-Self, or giving the Service-to-Self a prison colony environment, if you wish. However, this separation is for the benefit of both groups. The Service-to-Self find being around those of Service-to-Other mentality distracting to a great degree. All Service-to-Self entities at one time in their past had empathetic sensitivities toward others. This has been repressed in the interest of service to the self. The Service-to-Self entity does not want to be reminded of this, and if so reminded finds itself distracted and in need of http://www.zetatalk2.com/rules/r03.htm[2/5/2012 11:36:48 AM]
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correction for some time to come. Thus, the Service-to-Self wish to avoid those strongly oriented toward Service-to-Others. They are not clambering for the mix, either. The desire for distance is mutual.