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into listening to our warnings about Earth changes and flooding. These in fact received the greater amount of funding,
and are stymied now as to what to do - move or stay and risk drowning? Facilities to house the elite are also fairly
well know, in North Carolina and Wyoming, prize locations of the ultra right.
In other countries, such as the Urals in Russia, there are known locations. Britain is planning to leave their island and head elsewhere, most likely Australia. This is little publicized, but the rules about immigration in Australia reflect this mindset. Canada has become a mass of public opinion the Brits do not welcome, and Australia has pockets of the ultra-right well in hand for many decades, which the Brits feel they can count upon. The Australian elite are planning,
surprisingly, on being inland, the very places where flooding will occur. They reason that they will be safest where least expected to be found, in deserts where little life except the peaceful aborigines exist. Thus, they are setting up, like the NASA elite in Houston, in the worst place, flooded for sure. However, we expect them to change these plans at the last minute, and thus they will be obvious as to where they are headed. Just follow the truck loads of supplies!
Africa, where expected to be above the waves, is considered a cesspool of infection, Ebola not the only issue of
concern. Muslim countries are expected to remain, the ruling class sitting tight, as they have no confidence in their
ability to move and still be on top of the pile.
Note: below written during the Sep 7, 2002 IRC Session.
In the past, the elite in the US planned to go underground in facilities such as Mt Weather. Mt. Weather, like
Greenbriar, got revealed and of course this ruined their ability to house the elite out of the reach of the maddening
mob. Many, many other facilties were constructed, as rumored, with the idea that the pole shift would ruin the
atmosphere but not cause extensive quakes and shifting of the crust. In those days, the CIA, who was dominant in MJ12 in the early years, listened to the Service-to-Self aliens who impressed them with technology, and talked their
language, frankly, one Service-to-Self group to another. The Service-to-Self aliens spoke of saving the few, the elite, and leaving the masses to their lot. This resonated with the CIA, who were composed at the start with recruits from the Nazi SS.
What the CIA did not understand was that these Service-to-Self aliens were not into truth telling, and cared not for the CIA one wit. The goal is to harvest Service-to-Self souls, and the more hardened the better, so despair and a sense of
being abandoned and abused were the emotions and setting they hoped to achieve. Thus, they lulled the CIA into
believing they would survive, even encouraging the Sr. Bush to institute underground facilities in Houston, which will
be under water well before the shift. During the past few years, while the truth of these Service-to-Self aliens vs the truth of ZetaTalk have emerged, some hysteria has emerged among the elite. The orginal underground facilities, which
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no longer suitable. Thus, at this time, all plans are up in the air, though any and all facilities may in fact be used by the desperate. They will be entombed, or drowned, or attacked by angry mobs gaining entry, and thus in the true light of
Karma get what they deserve.
Note: below added during the Dec 21, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
The US with their Mt Weather is not alone in their expectation that underground facilities would be the best bet in the event of a possible pole shift. Human scientists present, in their limited view, the nuclear winter scenario, where all life above ground would die. Humans tend to put a few facts into the mix, ignoring a massive amount of other facts,
and thus come up with wrong conclusions. This is done for several reasons,
1. the limited human IQ,
2. the desire to arrive at a conclusion and thus limiting the options,
3. limited human knowledge in the first place.
Thus, given the projection that a nuclear winter, caused by volcanic eruption, could and perhaps has in the past as in the case of the presumed dinosaur extinction, the elite planned to go underground and live several decades thus.
In fact, as we have stated and any thorough analysis of the facts will present, dinosaur extinction was not caused by a nuclear winter, as not all forms were so affected, thus it was species selective, not global. It was a virus, not a nuclear winter. But given that military personnel are not know for their deep thinking, are brusque and bossy, they grabbed at
the projections and plotted their course. Given the size of the quakes, Richter 9 force worldwide, with mountain
building and renting of continental rifts, these underground facilities will hardly be a safe place. It takes little to trap an outlet, torque an elevator such that it cannot rise or fall, and create panic in the tomb. Air circulation will not work, slowly smothering those trapped inside. Water will find its way into underground pockets, drowning those trapped.
Electrical equipment will falter, plunging those into darkness. A fitting end of the elite who have, in their greed for power and wealth, sent the poor into mines and such circumstances.
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Note: written during the October 19, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
The Aftertime will find most of mankind in a dearth of government directives. Even small towns, governed by mayors
well known on the city streets to all, and traveling bands governed by chieftains, will feel the lack. Insanity, depression, loss of life and confusion will remove the firm hand so familiar from governing. Families will look to their elders, the family man, the religious leader, and find them all staring, shaking their heads, and unable to speak. In these situations, leadership arises from the needy, natural leaders emerging. Often they are children, to whom most of life is startling and strange, the unfamiliar presented almost daily. To the child, this is more an adventure, an opportunity to act
without constant parental admonitions. They will make suggestions, and be allowed to proceed, and often lead their
dazed and depressed parents and elders about like rag dolls.
Beyond the children, who will be inventive and energetic in the main, women will assume command by doing daily
chores. It is often said that men, who have single tasks in society, suffer when retiring, but women, who had the many
tasks keeping the household going, are without retirement. Thus, women see what to do with their time, and proceed, and being useful live longer and in greater health. In like manner, after the shift, women will wash and clean, gather
and cook a meal, and thus be looked upon as someone who can direct activities. When the depression clears, and
survivors begin looking about them, determining if they should seek out a government rep or make a report, perhaps
seek help from their government, a different conclusion will arise. Each initiating, others observing and offering to
help, and sharing, has taken place. This is the Service-to-Other society of your future, and once established by
survivor groups, should not be supplanted by ego driven directive by the power hungry. Tell them to sit back down and fall silent, as you did so much better before they found their tongue.
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ZetaTalk: New MJ12
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Note: written on Jan 15, 2001
The members of MJ12 who formed the new group have in almost all cases physically disappeared so that you could
not find them in the phone book or locate them. The government cannot hack at them. They don’t have relatives or
children so they cannot be harmed in that way. They are free agents. The new MJ12 group has determined an agenda
and course of action.
To prevent disinformation and misinformation from ruling.
Not that it cannot be spread, but it cannot prevail as the only message the people receive. They want
the public to receive the truth. They will arrange to have cover-ups exploded and leaks to occur and
countering information to come up from unusual sources.
To maintain the democratic ideal.
They do not want to see democracy completely bite the dust and martial law imposed so that people
become literally serfs of the wealthy or powerful at gunpoint of the military. This new group is not
restricted in the same way the old group of MJ12 was, in that the old MJ12 had rules. There was a
need-to-know basis between the various intel organizations and arms they utilized, the CIA and
FBI. In many cases these agencies had no idea they were doing an MJ12 service. So MJ12 had full
access to the government bureaucracy and agents, but they had many rules, such as not assassinating
somebody who was in the public eye. Therefore, someone in the public eye could get away with
maneuvers and thumb their nose, so to speak, at MJ12, knowing they were a public figure and
therefore could not be taken out. This group does not have such restrictions.
To retaliate against the initiator, not the agents.
They are carrying forward an earlier MJ12 routine, which was to attack the instigator of an action,
rather than any agent. In other words, if a high level executive of a corporation desired to have
something blown up or someone killed, when this was against MJ12’s rules, they would punish the
person setting off the bomb or person carrying the gun. These people would be stopped, but the
person to be retaliated against would be the person setting this in motion, in this case the executive,
who would be tortured in front of his compatriots or killed. This stopped a lot of nonsense in that
those who would create chaos tend to live in fear of having this come right back at them in their
front door, like a type of karma. So this new group is continuing this and going right to the top to
the person who has perpetrated the crime, rather than to punish the agents and it is remarkable how
effective this is.
This new group is very effective and has been functioning for some weeks at the time of this writing. The group has no
name. You can call it the new MJ12 if you wish, and if and when they decide on a name they will announce
themselves through ZetaTalk. In such a group as ours, a close-knit group, working effectively together, where there
are human telepaths who communicate with us as Nancy does, pretty effectively, names are not necessary.
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Note: Written during Dec 8, 2001 Live ZetaTalk IRC session.
The new MJ12 will be the least devastated during the coming shift, in terms of communications capabilities and travel
and a safe and secure place to live. These individuals who formed the new MJ12 are with us, being to a one highly
Service-to-Other. They are living on the surface of Earth, in 3rd Density, with a group of Zetas who do likewise in
order to live with those humans who have teamed with us as a result of prior association with MJ12 and the necessity
of our being present, so to speak, at all times. Just where these living quarters are is not something we care to
announce. They are, to facilitate travel and pickup, of course wearing implants. None of these folks, nor we, have any
time to lose. Their travel is via the means offered to the old MJ12, with our space ships and the cloaking they can
effect, so they are invisible. Their agenda has changed little since we announced the formation of this group.
Their communications are highly telepathic, as there are a number of telepaths employed formerly by the old MJ12
among them. We boost this capability so this communication means by these humans is enhanced. The old MJ12 had
40 members on 2 boards, but no females. Due to the nature of the old MJ12, there are few females in the new MJ12.
But there are a few. This group is likely to grow, over time, after the shift, as conscious awareness of the alien
presence is all that qualifies for initiation. That, and a strongly Service-to-Other orientation, of course. The count today of the new MJ12 member is 57, but this in no way compares to the old MJ12 which had approximately 2,000 member,
of which President George W. Bush was one, and Cheney.
How will matters change for this group, who have left human society in the main, after the shift? They will find
humans more open to their message, having suffered the shift as ZetaTalk has predicted. They will be busy helping
Service-to-Other communities become aware of the wider world and universe, no small deed in that introduction to
alien lifeforms may indeed be made with the new MJ12 being ambassadors. They will be busy continuing their agenda, which is to block and frustrate Service-to-Self human groups from having their way on the new Earth. Thus, they will
be busier than ever, as will Nancy and some of her human acquaintances.
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ZetaTalk: Live ZetaTalk
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Note: written Feb 15, 2002
With all of ZetaTalk we jointly decide matters. Nancy suffers from various health problems, is not a young person,
works extraordinarily hard, and is carrying a huge workload. Thus, we must consider her needs [re the Live ZetaTalk
IRC Sessions]. As a team, we were also looking for a time when the world as a whole could participate. Nancy posted
suggestions, and this time was not objected to much, so is currently the time [for the sessions]. It is possible to have more, other times, but for now this seems to be sufficing. We are not allowed to warn of Earth changes other than the
broad message of the coming shift, for instance, in response to the Call. To alert that there is a likely quake due in this or that part of the world is considered interference, parenting, and not allowed. To step in and attempt a warning would send us packing! So, we hold our breath and say nothing.
As with all of ZetaTalk, teams are assembled based on the expected questions. We indeed know who will be attending,
who plans to ask what, and sense new questions arising before they are voiced. In that we are highly telepathic and can assemble a team in an instant, this is not problem to change the participant mixture. We have a broader range of
specialties than humans imagine, as we come from many different worlds, and have lived more lifetimes, in a more
technological society. We are multi-faceted, but as most humans have discovered, they can contribute more with some specializing. Are we physically present? No, we stay at our tasks, perhaps taking a break in part to participate.
Telepathic brain waves go long distances, are highly tuned as to frequency, and we are all participatin
g as though
picking up a phone! Thus, we are ahead of you, at all times.
Will Live ZetaTalk continue after the shift? Where will Nancy be? Will she be connected via the Internet? Short wave,
as we have mentioned, is the best means of humans to contact one another. For those Service-to-Other communities that will setup with this means, inability to link due to a hilltop missing an antenna will not be a problem. They will find this network intact! Angels at work. We mentioned during a prior chat that Nancy has been invited to live with us, in hybrid communities. Those humans invited into these communities know who they are, and have either declined or
quietly accepted. This is not necessarily an easy life, as we bustle. There is not an idle moment, in spite of fatigue, and no quarter given to weakness such as the need for a good cry or a distraction. Thus, as hard as Nancy works, she can
expect to work harder, experience more grief, in her old age. The means of communication is being deliberately
withheld at this moment, for obvious reasons. The self centered, the power hungry, the elite desperate to continue their grip, are trying to position for the future. More as the hour of the shift approaches.
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Note: written prior to July 15, 1995
The months before the cataclysms, satellite failure will be sporadic, but enough to impact technology as it support
lifestyles today. Land lines will be reliable, but cell phones will not. This will be most disconcerting to the power
brokers among the elite, who will find business floundering, stocks which have fallen almost to the ground unable to
be salvaged, and the reliance of the military on communications creating choas among those expected to protect the
elite. These groups will be screeching at each other, making shrill demands where no fix can be made. The little man,