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ZetaTalk: Survivors
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ZetaTalk: Survivors
Note: written prior to July 15, 1995
The cataclysms will come quickly, and the great majority of deaths will be so instantaneous that there will be no time
for anxiety. Concern should be for the survivors, who will be injured, in shock, hungry, and looking in desperation for their loved ones. We would suggest that those who wish to commit suicide be allowed to do so. Most certainly those in
pain and torment, without hope of recovery or hope of receiving medical treatment when such treatment is scarce or
nonexistent, should be allowed this avenue. We would suggest birth control, without argument, as the infant mortality
rate will take out almost all born during the first few after years. Take pity on the mothers, who will share scarce food with a fetus only to see it born dead or struggle unsuccessfully for life.
The grief that will result from the cataclysms will be no greater for any given human than the grief their normal life
would sustain. Grief is something that comes to every life many times during a lifetime. Humans anticipate grieving
over the loss of loved ones, who may die suddenly by accident or unexpected illness or linger for a long, sad good-by.
Humans anticipate torrents of nature - volcanoes, tornadoes, floods, lighting, hailstorms, and earthquakes. These come
sometimes without warning, but many times are anticipated. Humans anticipate societal problems, the loss of jobs or
status, family and friends deserting one, banking failures. All this can suddenly place a human into grief, but in most cases the pending problems have been announcing themselves regularly. Any survivor of the cataclysms could have
experienced a life situation where home, job, family and friends, and health disappeared. This can and does happen
today to many, and not just due to acts of nature.
What will be different is that the anticipated assistance from wealthy countries or one's own government will not be
available. For most of the world, this won't come as a shock, as it is rather a shock when they do receive assistance.
For wealthy industrialized countries, this lack of assistance will be a shock. Some individuals will have to learn to rely more on themselves and to work communally with others. These are lessons that life teaches in any case, however, and
are not exclusive to the cataclysms. The cataclysms offer an opportunity, as does life in general, to be of service.
These are times of great opportunity, to be greatly of service. These are times when one can grow, and discover
strength within oneself previously unknown.
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ZetaTalk: Death Rate
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ZetaTalk: Death Rate
Note: added during the Dec 14, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
The 90% die-off that we have predicted, as we have stated, will not occur simply because of the shift. Most will die because of depression, failure to thrive, sitting down with a slight injury and not eating or drinking, as occurs after all calamities. Mankind is used to limited calamities, where a single city suffers a quake, or a single family a devastating fire. In come the Red Cross, the rescue from neighboring towns, the assistance from neighbors. Global calamities are such that no area is prepared to go forth and rescue, and all sit and wait to be rescued. Thus, all sit and wait without rescue.
India will of course be affected massively, and has a high population density. Coastal cities, Hong Kong, Japan, LA,
Paris, will be drown to a great extent. Cities near volcanoes, Mexico City, Japanese cities, Rome, will have heavy die-
off from ash. The next highest die-off will be in heavily populated areas where feeding the survivors simply cannot be
done. Anyone crawling from NYC will find themselves in suburbs, endless suburbs, with no expertise in gathering or growing food. Mexico City is likewise so afflicted, in the numbers it houses that cannot possible escape and dilute
their numbers into the countryside, so as to feed themselves. The only food available will be each other, fellow
survivors. The effect of climate change must be taken into consideration. Population along the current Bulge of Brazil
will freeze, regardless of ability to survive otherwise. The Himalayas, though high and cold already, will become more cold due to their position in the new South Pole, and many will freeze there also.
In short, the highest ratio of survivors will be in rural areas where there is a low ratio of human survivor to land.
Second, where the populace is used to foraging for themselves, not pampered and soft such as in suburbs of cities.
Third, where inundation will not catch the populace unawares, as in remote Siberia, but where natural escape routes
exist, such as in the Mississippi Valley. An additional consideration is the placement of elite bunkers, where the elite will attempt domination over the survivors. This is likely to diminish hope for all there, as the kind of infighting that will occur will be so disruptive of cooperative efforts, that all will go down together with the king-pin demanding his rights.
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ZetaTalk: Magnetic Pulse
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ZetaTalk: Magnetic Pulse
Note: added during the Mar 15, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
Humans note how sensitive their electronic devices are to magnetic pulse, electric surge, and imagine horror during the shift to their tender bodies. After all, are nerve impulses not governed by electricity to some degree? Do sparks not
numb the body part affected? Does electrocution not kill? The base misunderstanding here is the degree to which the
crust shields life on the crust from the magnetic field of Earth. We have stated this already, in ZetaTalk, during early discussions on the extent the magnetic fields reach out into space. We have stated that humans think their magnetic
field limited, as the crust shields them from the true force of the field. The field reaches out into space, flowing from one pole, wrapping around to the other pole, ignoring the crust surface in between. Thus, the field is extensive out in space, far reaching, as is the Sun's field. The crust, having been affected by many pole shifts with hardening magma
pointing in all directions, buffers this. What evidence do worried humans have that magnetic pulse affects their body?
It is true that recent studies have determined that humans residing under high tension lines have an increased incidence of cancer. There are many reasons for this, other than the magnetic field that might be generated in the area, but let us just point out the differences between a high tension line, or being electrocuted, and being a body experiencing an
Electro-Magnetic Pulse. Do you expect that the Earth will crackle with electricity to the extent that your body is when aside a current like a high tension line carries? This would be akin to being near a lighting strike, which seldom
happens, and does indeed leave its mark on humans where the lighting passes through the body to some degree. Man
does not have large magnets, outside of an electrical field! They have small compasses, small magnets, and huge electro-magnetic generators. Here you have the electric current flowing, confusing the issue.
During the pole shift, there will be a strong movement of the magnetic poles of the Earth, but this will not affect humans on Earth anymore than a human standing on the magnetic North and South poles today is affected. It is the giant magnet that is the core that cares, not humans
on the crust. To the extend that a magnet inside human technology, or data, or sensitive instruments, receives a pulse, it will of course affect that technology just as data or magnetic
components can be ruined when inspected before boarding a plane. Here again, we point out the difference between
humans and magnetic technology! Do humans die when passing in front of inspection devices at the airport? No! Thus,
protect your equipment, your data, if obsessed, but worry not about yourselves.
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ZetaTalk: Preexisting Health
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ZetaTalk: Preexisting Health
Note: added during the Mar 15, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
The shift will present many with preexisting health problems with challenges. At the same time, many will find their
health improved, and be surprised by this. most diseases have a psychological basis, a connection, as has often been born out by studies. Cancer, one of the prime killers, has such a strong psychological basis that it can literally be cured by the affected person simply deciding they want to live rather than die. Miraculous reversals, on the verge of death from cancer, are associated with the affected person making decisions to rid themselves of some burden, express their
feelings, or make dramatic changes in their live. Doctors repeatedly state they are astonished that some humans they
literally pronounce dead, survive, by the will to live alone. Others, expected to make a quick recovery, wilt and die.
The immune system is hugely affected by the humans outlook, with depression bringing this down to the extent that the slightest illness can get a grip and take the person out! This is one reason for the increasing illness we have
predicted at the start of ZetaTalk to be a symptom of the approaching pole shift, which is now so evident that people
are astonished at the extent this is affecting cruise ships and the like.
There are, of course, many illnesses that take a toll on the body, damage the body, and no matter how hale the person might be later, how optimistic and enthused, the body simply is not able. Many examples are quick to anyone's mind: Those with kidney diseases needing dialysis;
Those with Type 1 Diabetes needing insulin replacement;
Those with such severe emphysema that they cannot live without oxygen direct to the lungs;
Those with a continuing need for blood thinners, or blood pressure reducers, as the stress of the shift and a lack
of medication will create an instant emergency for these individuals.
What we have stated is that life should be viewed as life was 100 years ago, in industrialized countries, or as it is today in 3rd World countries. Many people are alive today, who would have died quickly in those times. Often death is
viewed as a horror to be avoided, fought, but when it is clearly inevitable, or the person in pain, is welcomed. Do those at the bedside of a very aged person, perhaps 100 years old, unable to move about and scarcely able to understand
where they are, have regrets? They say their good-byes, hold hands and weep a bit, treat the last days when family
may gather as a type of family reunion, and nothing much more is made of this as it is expected that the end will occur.
100 years ago, in pre-industrial or pre-modern times, when surgery was rare, transplants unheard of, vaccinations not
yet invented, and such items as insulin and bottled oxygen not available, many situations resulted in the same mind set.
A child with appendicitis died, and the anxious parents were in fact relieved when pain no longer wracked the child. A
broken limb resulting in infection and sepsis created a crisis and everyone knew the outcome, and all said their good-
byes without hesitation.
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ZetaTalk: Unhealthy Environs
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ZetaTalk: Unhealthy Environs
Note: added during the Mar 15, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
It is only today, with antibiotics and replacements therapy, that the assumption is otherwise! This is an issue of an attitude, as death is not the end, and the same calm that accompanies a good-bye to an oldster at the end of a century of living should be in place for many illnesses and injuries. In fact, modern medicine often increases the pain a patient experiences, by prolonging the illness in favor of collecting insurance and pandering to any relative of the patient who demands that life goes on. Nature is not that unkind.
Clearly, there will be many injuries as a result of the pole shift.
Clearly, there will be many who go insane because they were not warned, and are feeling confused and
abandoned.
Clearly, those without medication or supports they need for life itself will die, quickly.
Clearly, many will be depressed and allow simple illnesses to overtake them.
The answer here is to point to the positive side of the changes, not to be anxious about what is happening to the person as your anxiety will have a negative effect on the patient, and to accept what comes as what nature brings or what the person has decided for themselves. Beyond this, there are health affects from living in the wrong place. If downwind
from a volcano, the ash will affect breathing and water quality, as well as the chance for any vegetation in the diet.
The answer to this, is to move. If in an area subject to flooding, such that the feet are always wet, the body never dry, and one finds oneself wading through sewage, then move. We have stated that the atmosphere will be stripped away such that the clouds will be low for some years. This equates, to some degree, to less air to breath in high places.
However, this is also offset by the rise in sea level, as this will push the remaining atmosphere up, thus recreating what most humans are familiar with. Few will be in the high mountain tops during the shift, such that they would be
affected, in any case, by a drop in air pressure or oxygen availability.
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ZetaTalk: Survival Groups
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ZetaTalk: Survival Groups
Note: added during the Dec 7, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
Survival groups will be composed of a variety of diverse folk, shortly after the shift and in the long term. We will give some examples, in explanation, as the variety possible is endless, but some predictable patterns will repeat often.
Example 1
A family, with close friends, and extended family members have for some years been talking prophecy and
watching the earth changes. They are serious, plan to the extent that their pocket books and other obligations
allow, so have a site, supplies put aside, and an escape plan laid out. The week of rotation stoppage arrives, and
many of the group are already at the site, the others en route. Several scenarios may ensue, depending upon
location, neighbors, and personalities involved:
The group may be compatible and isolated, and subsist for many months before venturing forth to
meet others.
The group may find fighting breaks out, certain member becoming hostile and demanding and
unable to live under the constraints understood. This many result in that member being expelled, and
returning with others to loot and take revenge. This may result in continuing hostilities in the group,
making life unpleasant and creating stress diseases.
The group may not be isolated, and find neighbors coming with their hands out, starving, or
demanding. This may results in sharing all around, creating starvation in the group or ar
guments, or
may result in a larger and compatible community with the neighbors, all sharing resources and
ideas.
The group may be known at large, not kept a secret as planned, and have organized looting by the
US Military or local government, looking for hoarded supplies. This would place the group into the
same position they would have been had they not planned at all, on foot, without supplies, and
perhaps without a place to stay.
Example 2
A family has no opportunity to plan, or gather supplies, but is prepared to escape to a safe area, leave the city.
The family finds themselves afterwards with no more than a few bottles of water and canned goods, a sweater,
and a few hand tools in a backpack. They wander into the country side, find a friendly farm family, and all begin
working on mutual goals and tasks. They are joined by others, also on foot or stranded, and those not compatible
leave, those compatible fit in, and the community grows. The farm is isolated, by nature, so not that many arrive, and the sorting out process proceeds without being overwhelmed.
Example 3
A mid-sized community, seeing the earth changes and hearing predictions, decides to hold community meetings,
town hall, and lay plans. The mayor is respected and doing his best, the community has many community
minded groups and citizens, and serious discussions are held concerning problems. They bottle water,
commandeer food and supplies from local stores, assess individual and family needs, and try their best to
function as a governed community. The shift comes, and houses are blown off foundations, injured everywhere
beyond what the trained medical personnel can deal with, and many heart attacks and strokes occur, a medical
nightmare. Those who were to be responsible are in the main simply not found, are off wandering or sitting in
the shadows, overwhelmed, gone mad, or failing to deliver on their promises, a frequent human situation. Food