by Nancy Lieder
'apparent' heart attack. A heart that 'gives out' is one given to heart failure, which is entirely different than a coronary.
Heart failure is not unexpected, but chronic, causing water retention and shortness of breath and culminating in the
lungs filling up with water as the heart fails. A coronary is caused by a clot, forming in a clogged artery which in this
day and age, especially in a wealthy man getting good medical attention, is not 'unexpected'. Were Lay to have such
clogging that such a clot could form, this would have shown up on his regular medical exams, been palpable, audible
by stethoscope, visible on echocardiograms, and bypass surgery steps taken. He was taken out, and in an obvious
manner so as to be a warning to others thinking of following his lead.
Signs of the Times #1619
Ken Lay, Enron icon, is dead [Jul 5] http://www.rawstory.com/news/ 'His death was totally
unexpected. Apparently, his heart simply gave out. Lay, 64, was admitted to the Aspen Valley
Hospital overnight with a massive coronary. He was to be sentenced on Oct. 23. Lay's charges
carried a maximum penalty of 45 years in prison for the corporate trial and 120 years in the
personal banking trial.'
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ZetaTalk: Financier Suicides
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ZetaTalk: Financier Suicides
written September 19, 2009
There was a report that forces loyal to Obama thwarted an assassination attempt by rogue CIA-Mossad
terror cells on the day of a scheduled speech on Wall Street. And supposedly four men were "suicided",
among them: California's Danny Pang, their "Chicago money man" Christopher Kelly, their "East Coast
moneyman" Finn Casperson, and, most importantly, the main financier and "conduit to the Globalists"
James McDonald, chief executive officer of investment management firm Rockefeller & Co . Is there any
truth behind this story? [and from another] Four Apparent Suicides/Deaths in 48 Hours - CEO-
Financiers-Fundraiser [Sep 15] [and from another] Obama has called on Congress to pass a sweeping
overhaul of how financial institutions behave. [Sep 13] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/13/obama-
wall-street-speech-_n_285231.html
What wealthy individual commits suicide by gunshot in a parked car, where McDonald was found, or in an alley
where Capserson was found? And of all means to end one's life, aspirin, Kelly's apparent pill of choice, is hardly the
exit of choice. Of the four Pang was under house arrest, Kelly was to begin a prison term, and Casperson was being
investigated for tax evasion, but none of this is fodder for suicide. Madoff is serving his life terms without this resort,
for instance. These four suicides are indeed suspicious, as they should be, as they are not suicides. During the Bush
administration we talked about behind-the-scenes wars, where a contingent of people in the Justice Department, the FBI, and in Congress were determined to keep the criminal cabal that had taken over the White House from achieving
their goals. This war has not changed, but the field of battle has shifted.
Bush may not have been able to plant WMD in Iraq, or been able to declare martial law, and those associated with the
Bush administration were not able to move forward with their plans to exterminate tens of millions via chemtrails
using US military planes or via vaccination programs, but the hope still lives on. This group, which does include
Israelis, wants to remain in control of Iraqi oil fields and add the oil fields in Iran and Saudi Arabia too. Obama is
pulling out of Iraq, resisting any plan to bomb Iran, and is even chiding Israel for their continuing land grabs. This
group was able to make the rich get richer during the Bush administration and despite the Wall Street crash in the fall
of 2008, still expects this to be the status quo. Obama is taking steps to counter this trend and cap and limit what the
greedy can grab. But Obama has many enemies, among them Wall Street barons, military contractors or suppliers,
health insurance executives, lobbyists, the wealthy, and white supremacists. But not all these enemies would take the
step of attempting to assassinate Obama.
During the Bush administration, the behind-the-scene wars were evident in the Emergency Action Notification,
Rayburn Building shootout, and the stolen B52 nukes. When Bush was in office there were several attempts to incite martial law via a pandemic, but none succeeded. Since Bush left office we have had the Mexican swine flu outbreak, notable in that the cabal inciting this operated outside of the US to initiate the pandemic. Where Bush was seen as a
puppet of this cabal, Obama is viewed as the enemy. This cabal wants to rule the world in the aftertime, after the pole
shift. They want control of the oil fields in the Middle East, a reduction in population, and martial law.
Operations such as this require insiders, those who can be bribed or intimidated or blackmailed, and those who are
sympathetic to the cause. But as the movies so aptly show, bugs can be planted, insiders can give away the plan by
their actions and body language, criminals can get nervous and start to cooperate with authorities, and insiders can be
double agents from the start. All of these elements trip up a plan when it is set in motion. Wall Street is where most of
the wealthy house and increase their wealth, and for Obama to lecture these individuals while taking away their source
of wealth was more than some could bear. The Bush administration allowed rampant financial crimes, but Obama has
begun to prosecute in earnest. The assassinations were not done by the Obama administration, which planned arrests
and investigations, but by those fearing that such investigations would lead back to the real instigators who are still at
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large. Nonetheless, they are clearly nervous, and will be increasingly ill at ease. The game is up, so they will begin
circling their wagons. Watch for this.
Newport Beach Financier Danny Pang Dies at 42
September 12, 2009
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/09/newport-beach-financier-dies-after-being-rushed-to-the-
hospital.html
Newport Beach financier Danny Pang died early Saturday at a local hospital, according to the
Orange County coroner's office. The 42-year-old Pang has been accused by the government of
operating a Ponzi scheme and of taking at least $83 million in inflated fees, salary and loans from
his investment firm before it was seized by federal regulators in April. He had denied wrongdoing.
Dying Blagojevich Fundraiser Overdosed
September 14, 2009
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/13/blagojevich.fundraiser.dead/
Police are investigating the death of the former chief fundraiser for ex-Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich.
Christopher Kelly, 51, was former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich's chief fundraiser. Financier
Christopher Kelly told police shortly before he died Saturday that he took an "overdose of drugs."
Kelly pleaded guilty to two counts of mail fraud "in a kickback scheme to bring in $8.5 million in
business at O'Hare International Airport to his roofing company." Kelly was to begin a prison
sentence this week, the Tribune reported.
Financier Finn Casperson Dead in Apparent Suicide
September 9
http://www.inquisitr.com/36737/financier-finn-casperson-dead-in-apparent-suicide/
Ex-CEO of Beneficial
Corp. Finn H.W. Casperson was found dead in an apparent suicide behind an
office building in Westerly, Rhode Island. Casperson, 67, was discovered dead of what appeared to
be a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Casperson came from a wealthy family and moved with powerful
people, and he was known for his political influence, fundraising and philanthropy.
Rockefeller & Co's CEO Committed Suicide
September 15, 2009
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE58E1BV20090915?
feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews
McDonald, 56, was found with a single gunshot wound in his car near a strip mall in Dartmouth,
Massachusetts. Police are still investigating. James McDonald was chief executive officer of
investment management firm Rockefeller & Co. McDonald was also a board member of NYSE
Euronext.
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ZetaTalk: Rabin
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ZetaTalk: Rabin
Note: written during the October 19, 2002 IRC Session
Lately, the Israeli have been noted for bloodthirsty treatment of their neighbors, the Palestinians. Coming out of
WWII, they invoked pity in all, so great was their suffering, but in a half century, this has turned. The country is now
being lead by those who hunger only for the land of their neighbors, and seek every opportunity to settle on land not
theirs, and incite those disenfranchised to throw rocks. In this climate, was former Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin killed
by an assassin, or was this arranged, ala JFK, by those wanting to displace him? Rabin was no more killed by a single
individual than JFK, nor will the truth be any more forthcoming than the JFK investigations, culminating in a single
bullet theory. The current Foreign Minister Shimon Peres has himself been under investigation, as has Bush at Harken,
and gotten away Scot free. It is no surprise that the so-called leadership of these two countries, who to some degree
stole their place in government by deceit and treachery, are friends.
It is not money interests that has created this alliance. The Jewish heritage is to be sharp, highly intelligent, marry
among themselves to the brainy, not the brawny, and thus they earn their reputation well. However, it is the money that
should be followed, when tracing the hand of international banking interests, not the sharing of a religion. Most
bankers are not pleased with the tone set by Israel at all. The Bush Administration and the Israeli Administration think
alike, and plot to take over and divide the world among them, Israel with all the oil and land it needs, spreading into
Europe after the shift, and Bush with the North American continent to start. Those who killed Rabin were a group, not
a single individual, just as those who put Bush in the White House are not even seen on TV or given Cabinet positions.
Just as Hitler was controlled by those behind him, behind the scenes, so these two power mad and ruthless governors
are controlled themselves, by groups more ruthless and power mad. Names would not be recognized, so will not be
given.
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ZetaTalk: Bhutto's Assassination
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written December 29, 2007
Considering the administration's previous snubbing of Pakistan while overtly stroking India in an attempt
to create discord, as discussed on ZetaTalk Live a few years back, considering Pakistan is a nuclear nation and therefore, perceived as a clear danger if gripped with anarchy and fanatics, considering calls to send
special units in to seize Pakistani nukes, considering a previous attempt to abscond with nuclear weapons
from the United States, considering the administration's keen desire to invade Iran, considering Pakistan
and Afghanistan boarder Iran and the administration's new fear that chaos will spill over into
Afghanistan, considering the administration's previous attempts to foster chaos in the Middle East in
order to justify a draft and a greater U.S. presence in the region and to hopefully justify an invasion of
Iran, considering the administration brokered the popular Bhutto's return to Pakistan, I can't help
wondering if there was a White House agenda behind the "cowardly" assassination. Am I paranoid or is
my skepticism warranted?
Bhutto was not killed by extremists, though this will be the public line from Pakistan and the Bush administration
alike. She was clearly killed by insiders within the Pakistani government, long known to resent her and others trying to
reinstate a democratically elected prime minister. These elements within the Pakistani government like the cloak of
martial law, whether in place officially or unofficially. They have tentacles throughout the Pakistani government and
military, as can be seen by the fact that security forces stepped away, abandoned their posts, during Bhutto's
assassination, and the fact that street lights went out and security forces were absent during the prior assassination
attempt. Her death is intended to put an end to all discussion of elections, as turmoil will necessitate the continuation
of essential martial law, which was their goal. This is not Musharraf, but elements within his government so
entrenched he could not root them out. The ISI is like the CIA, very secretive and with an arrogant assumption that
they can form governments, topple governments, and not be called to account.
What hand did the Bush administration have in Bhutto's death? Although in the past Bush and especially Cheney
wanted turmoil in Afghanistan and Pakistan to incite war with Iran, it has become increasingly obvious to them that
the US military would not engage Iran simply because of shouted claims about Iran's hand in the Iraq turmoil or claims
that Iran is developing nuclear weapons. Attempting to goad Iran into battle also has not worked, and an attempted
theft of a US nuclear warhead to precipitate a confrontation in the Middle East also was foiled. Creating turmoil in
Iraq by blowing up the Golden Mosque also did not tumble the Iraq conflicts over the border into Iran, and fomenting
Iran rebellion by supporting Iran's internal rebels likewise failed. Thus, starting a war with Iran in order to sit on their
oil fields has not become the central focus of the Bush administration of late. Instead, Bush and Cheney have become
concerned that they may in fact be removed from power altogether shortly, if by no other reason than the general
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elections to be held in 2008.
Bhutto was unquestionably encouraged by the Bush administration to return to Pakistan. In a complete about face, they
now wanted to suppress turmoil, as the situation in Iraq had become so unstable that they feared being run out of Iraq.
The US military is frankly wanting to exit Iraq, and only cooperated with the surge on the surface. If deaths have gone
down, statistically, it is not because the surge has worked, but because soldiers are no longer being sent out on
dangerous missions. They are hunkering down at the bases, allowing the country to establish whatever local rule
evolves. The US military, like the British and Australian forces, are withdrawing, by this means. If they are no longer
involved in local rule, keeping the peace, then a quick exit from the bases can be accomplished without much fuss and
even without much notice! If Afghanistan and Pakistan blow up, then because of the nukes Pakistan is known to
possess, the focus of the US military would move there, and Iraq's oil fields abandoned. Thus, Bush and Cheney and
Condi hoped to bolster Musharraf's popularity with the public by an alliance with Bhutto, to avoid the turmoil that was
seething just under the surface in the populace.
Responsibility for Bhutto's assassination also lies with Bhutto herself. She knew, acutely, that an assassination was
likely to be attempted not just once but repeatedly. The prior attempt in October which she escaped only because she
ducked into the inner bunker on her bus in time to escape the blast told her that, if nothing else. Where at that time she
was listening to her intuition and wanted to escape assassination, she had since become jaded and discouraged. She
had once fled Pakistan, and did not want to repeat that humiliation. It was no accident that she escaped the
assassination attempt in October, no accident that her timing in seeking the safety and comfort of her bunker because
of sore feet was such that she barely escaped the bomb blast. She was under protection of benign aliens who were
advising her. But the rule in Service-to-Other alien cultures is that if an entity wishes to commit suicide, or become a
martyr, they are allowed to do so. Whatever was Bhutto thinking, to be sticking her head out of the sunroof of her car
in that manner, like a duck in a shooting gallery, virtually asking for a bullet!
What now? Will Pakistan's nukes be put into play, potentially slipping into the hands of terrorist elements? This is
highly likely, especially because in the past the CIA encouraged the ISI to side with the Taliban in their battles with
Russia, which had invaded Afghanistan. It is not by accident that Bin Laden is rumored to be in the mountains of
Pakistan, as the government is not pursuing the Taliban, so recently their old friend. The US will be frantic to assist
Musharraf in guarding these arsenals, and high drama may ensue, but because there are no oil fields in Pakistan and