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  Yes, indeed, he said.

  And if there are only a few of them in the State, and the rest of the people are well disposed, they go away and become the body-guard or mercenary soldiers of some other tyrant who may probably want them for a war; and if there is no war, they stay at home and do many little pieces of mischief in the city.

  What sort of mischief?

  For example, they are the thieves, burglars, cutpurses, foot-pads, robbers of temples, man-stealers of the community; or if they are able to speak they turn informers, and bear false witness, and take bribes.

  A small catalogue of evils, even if the perpetrators of them are few in number.

  Yes, I said; but small and great are comparative terms, and all these things, in the misery and evil which they inflict upon a State, do not come within a thousand miles of the tyrant; when this noxious class and their followers grow numerous and become conscious of their strength, assisted by the infatuation of the people, they choose from among themselves the one who has most of the tyrant in his own soul, and him they create their tyrant.

  Yes, he said, and he will be the most fit to be a tyrant.

  If the people yield, well and good; but if they resist him, as he began by beating his own father and mother, so now, if he has the power, he beats them, and will keep his dear old fatherland or motherland, as the Cretans say, in subjection to his young retainers whom he has introduced to be their rulers and masters. This is the end of his passions and desires.

  Exactly.

  When such men are only private individuals and before they get power, this is their character; they associate entirely with their own flatterers or ready tools; or if they want anything from anybody, they in their turn are equally ready to bow down before them: they profess every sort of affection for them; but when they have gained their point they know them no more.

  Yes, truly.

  They are always either the masters or servants and never the friends of anybody; the tyrant never tastes of true freedom or friendship.

  Certainly not.

  And may we not rightly call such men treacherous?

  No question.

  Also they are utterly unjust, if we were right in our notion of justice?

  Yes, he said, and we were perfectly right.

  Let us then sum up in a word, I said, the character of the worst man: he is the waking reality of what we dreamed.

  Most true.

  And this is he who being by nature most of a tyrant bears rule, and the longer he lives the more of a tyrant he becomes.

  That is certain, said Glaucon, taking his turn to answer.

  And will not he who has been shown to be the wickedest, be also the most miserable? and he who has tyrannized longest and most, most continually and truly miserable; although this may not be the opinion of men in general?

  Yes, he said, inevitably.

  And must not the tyrannical man be like the tyrannical State, and the democratical man like the democratical State; and the same of the others?

  Certainly.

  And as State is to State in virtue and happiness, so is man in relation to man?

  To be sure.

  Then comparing our original city, which was under a king, and the city which is under a tyrant, how do they stand as to virtue?

  They are the opposite extremes, he said, for one is the very best and the other is the very worst.

  There can be no mistake, I said, as to which is which, and therefore I will at once enquire whether you would arrive at a similar decision about their relative happiness and misery. And here we must not allow ourselves to be panic-stricken at the apparition of the tyrant, who is only a unit and may perhaps have a few retainers about him; but let us go as we ought into every comer of the city and look all about, and then we will give our opinion.

  A fair invitation, he replied; and I see, as every one must, that a tyranny is the wretchedest form of government, and the rule of a king the happiest.

  And in estimating the men too, may I not fairly make a like request, that I should have a judge whose mind can enter into and see through human nature? he must not be like a child who looks at the outside and is dazzled at the pompous aspect which the tyrannical nature assumes to the beholder, but let him be one who has a clear insight. May I suppose that the judgment is given in the hearing of us all by one who is able to judge, and has dwelt in the same place with him, and been present at his daily life and known him in his family relations, where he may be seen stripped of his tragedy attire, and again in the hour of public danger —he shall tell us about the happiness and misery of the tyrant when compared with other men?

  That again, he said, is a very fair proposal.

  Shall I assume that we ourselves are able and experienced judges and have before now met with such a person? We shall then have some one who will answer our enquiries.

  By all means.

  Let me ask you not to forget the parallel of the individual and the State; bearing this in mind, and glancing in turn from one to the other of them, will you tell me their respective conditions?

  What do you mean? he asked.

  Beginning with the State, I replied, would you say that a city which is governed by a tyrant is free or enslaved ?

  No city, he said, can be more completely enslaved.

  And yet, as you see, there are freemen as well as masters in such a State?

  Yes, he said, I see that there are—a few; but the people, speaking generally, and the best of them are miserably degraded and enslaved.

  Then if the man is like the State, I said, must not the same rule prevail? his soul is full of meanness and vulgarity—the best elements in him are enslaved; and there is a small ruling part, which is also the worst and maddest.

  Inevitably.

  And would you say that the soul of such an one is the soul of a freeman, or of a slave?

  He has the soul of a slave, in my opinion.

  And the State which is enslaved under a tyrant is utterly incapable of acting voluntarily?

  Utterly incapable.

  And also the soul which is under a tyrant (I am speaking of the soul taken as a whole) is least capable of doing what she desires; there is a gadfly which goads her, and she is full of trouble and remorse?

  Certainly.

  And is the city which is under a tyrant rich or poor?

  Poor.

  And the tyrannical soul must be always poor and insatiable ?

  True.

  And must not such a State and such a man be always full of fear?

  Yes, indeed.

  Is there any State in which you will find more of lamentation and sorrow and groaning and pain?

  Certainly not.

  And is there any man in whom you will find more of this sort of misery than in the tyrannical man, who is in a fury of passions and desires?

  Impossible.

  Reflecting upon these and similar evils, you held the tyrannical State to be the most miserable of States?

  And I was right, he said.

  Certainly, I said. And when you see the same evils in the tyrannical man, what do you say of him?

  I say that he is by far the most miserable of all men.

  There, I said, I think that you are beginning to go wrong.

  What do you mean?

  I do not think that he has as yet reached the utmost extreme of misery.

  Then who is more miserable?

  One of whom I am about to speak.

  Who is that?

  He who is of a tyrannical nature, and instead of leading a private life has been cursed with the further misfortune of being a public tyrant.

  From what has been said, I gather that you are right.

  Yes, I replied, but in this high argument you should be a little more certain, and should not conjecture only; for of all questions, this respecting good and evil is the greatest.

  Very true, he said.

  Let me then offer you an illustration, which may, I think, throw a light upon this subject
.

  What is your illustration?

  The case of rich individuals in cities who possess many slaves: from them you may form an idea of the tyrant’s condition, for they both have slaves; the only difference is that he has more slaves.

  Yes, that is the difference.

  You know that they live securely and have nothing to apprehend from their servants?

  What should they fear?

  Nothing. But do you observe the reason of this?

  Yes; the reason is, that the whole city is leagued together for the protection of each individual.

  Very true, I said. But imagine one of these owners, the master say of some fifty slaves, together with his family and property and slaves, carried off by a god into the wilderness, where there are no freemen to help him—will he not be in an agony of fear lest he and his wife and children should be put to death by his slaves?

  Yes, he said, he will be in the utmost fear.

  The time has arrived when he will be compelled to flatter divers of his slaves, and make many promises to them of freedom and other things, much against his will—he will have to cajole his own servants.

  Yes, he said, that will be the only way of saving himself.

  And suppose the same god, who carried him away, to surround him with neighbours who will not suffer one man to be the master of another, and who, if they could catch the offender, would take his life?

  His case will be still worse, if you suppose him to be everywhere surrounded and watched by enemies.

  And is not this the sort of prison in which the tyrant will be bound—he who being by nature such as we have described, is full of all sorts of fears and lusts? His soul is dainty and greedy, and yet alone, of all men in the city, he is never allowed to go on a journey, or to see the things which other freemen desire to see, but he lives in his hole like a woman hidden in the house, and is jealous of any other citizen who goes into foreign parts and sees anything of interest.

  Very true, he said.

  And amid evils such as these will not he who is ill-governed in his own person—the tyrannical man, I mean—whom you just now decided to be the most miserable of all—will not he be yet more miserable when, instead of leading a private life, he is constrained by fortune to be a public tyrant? He has to be master of others when he is not master of himself: he is like a diseased or paralytic man who is compelled to pass his life, not in retirement, but fighting and combating with other men.

  Yes, he said, the similitude is most exact.

  Is not his case utterly miserable? and does not the actual tyrant lead a worse life than he whose life you determined to be the worst?

  Certainly.

  He who is the real tyrant, whatever men may think, is the real slave, and is obliged to practise the greatest adulation and servility, and to be the flatterer of the vilest of mankind. He has desires which he is utterly unable to satisfy, and has more wants than any one, and is truly poor, if you know how to inspect the whole soul of him: all his life long he is beset with fear and is full of convulsions, and distractions, even as the State which he resembles: and surely the resemblance holds?

  Very true, he said.

  Moreover, as we were saying before, he grows worse from having power: he becomes and is of necessity more jealous, more faithless, more unjust, more friendless, more impious, than he was at first; he is the purveyor and cherisher of every sort of vice, and the consequence is that he is supremely miserable, and that he makes everybody else as miserable as himself.

  No man of any sense will dispute your words.

  Come then, I said, and as the general umpire in theatrical contests proclaims the result, do you also decide who in your opinion is first in the scale of happiness, and who second, and in what order the others follow: there are five of them in all—they are the royal, timocratical, oligarchical, democratical, tyrannical.

  The decision will be easily given, he replied; they shall be choruses coming on the stage, and I must judge them in the order in which they enter, by the criterion of virtue and vice, happiness and misery.

  Need we hire a herald, or shall I announce, that the son of Aristón [the best] has decided that the best and justest is also the happiest, and that this is he who is the most royal man and king over himself; and that the worst and most unjust man is also the most miserable, and that this is he who being the greatest tyrant of himself is also the greatest tyrant of his State?

  Make the proclamation yourself, he said.

  And shall I add, “whether seen or unseen by gods and men”?

  Let the words be added.

  Then this, I said, will be our first proof; and there is another, which may also have some weight.

  What is that?

  The second proof is derived from the nature of the soul: seeing that the, individual soul, like the State, has been divided by us into three principles, the division may, I think, furnish a new demonstration.

  Of what nature?

  It seems to me that to these three principles three pleasures correspond; also three desires and governing powers.

  How do you mean? he said.

  There is one principle with which, as we were saying, a man learns, another with which he is angry; the third, having many forms, has no special name, but is denoted by the general term appetitive, from the extraordinary strength and vehemence of the desires of eating and drinking and the other sensual appetites which are the main elements of it; also money-loving, because such desires are generally satisfied by the help of money.

  That is true, he said.

  If we were to say that the loves and pleasures of this third part were concerned with gain, we should then be able to fall back on a single notion; and might truly and intelligibly describe this part of the soul as loving gain or money

  I agree with you.

  Again, is not the passionate element wholly set on ruling and conquering and getting fame?

  True.

  Suppose we call it the contentious or ambitious—would the term be suitable?

  Extremely suitable.

  On the other hand, every one sees that the principle of knowledge is wholly directed to the truth, and cares less than either of the others for gain or fame.

  Far less.

  “Lover of wisdom,” “lover of knowledge,” are titles which we may fitly apply to that part of the soul?

  Certainly.

  One principle prevails in the souls of one class of men, another in others, as may happen?

  Yes.

  Then we may begin by assuming that there are three classes of men—lovers of wisdom, lovers of honour, lovers of gain?

  Exactly.

  And there are three kinds of pleasure, which are their several objects?

  Very true.

  Now, if you examine the three classes of men, and ask of them in turn which of their lives is pleasantest, each will be found praising his own and depreciating that of others: the money-maker will contrast the vanity of honour or of learning if they bring no money with the solid advantages of gold and silver?

  True, he said.

  And the lover of honour—what will be his opinion? Will he not think that the pleasure of riches is vulgar, while the pleasure of learning, if it brings no distinction, is all smoke and nonsense to him?

  Very true.

  And are we to suppose,145 I said, that the philosopher sets any value on other pleasures in comparison with the pleasure of knowing the truth, and in that pursuit abiding, ever learning, not so far indeed from the heaven of pleasure? Does he not call the other pleasures necessary, under the idea that if there were no necessity for them, he would rather not have them?

  There can be no doubt of that, he replied.

  Since, then, the pleasures of each class and the life of each are in dispute, and the question is not which life is more or less honourable, or better or worse, but which is the more pleasant or painless—how shall we know who speaks truly?

  I cannot myself tell, he said.

  Well
, but what ought to be the criterion? Is any better than experience and wisdom and reason?

  There cannot be a better, he said.

  Then, I said, reflect. Of the three individuals, which has the greatest experience of all the pleasures which we enumerated? Has the lover of gain, in learning the nature of essential truth, greater experience of the pleasure of knowledge than the philosopher has of the pleasure of gain?

  The philosopher, he replied, has greatly the advantage; for he has of necessity always known the taste of the other pleasures from his childhood upwards: but the lover of gain in all his experience has not of necessity tasted—or, I should rather say, even had he desired, could hardly have tasted—the sweetness of learning and knowing truth.

  Then the lover of wisdom has a great advantage over the lover of gain, for he has a double experience?

  Yes, very great.

  Again, has he greater experience of the pleasures of honour, or the lover of honour of the pleasures of wisdom?

  Nay, he said, all three are honoured in proportion as they attain their object; for the rich man and the brave man and the wise man alike have their crowd of admirers, and as they all receive honour they all have experience of the pleasures of honour; but the delight which is to be found in the knowledge of true being is known to the philosopher only.

  His experience, then, will enable him to judge better than any one?

  Far better.

  And he is the only one who has wisdom as well as experience?

  Certainly.

  Further, the very faculty which is the instrument of judgment is not possessed by the covetous or ambitious man, but only by the philosopher?

  What faculty?

 

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