Ted Bundy's Murderous Mysteries

by Kevin Sullivan

  I didn’t notice any accent in his speech. After I got to the concession stand, my boyfriend came up. I told him what the man said. Nick said he didn’t notice the man except from the back.

  We left about 4:45 p.m.

  Today, July 19, 1974, I saw him in a composite drawing in the Seattle Times.

  Today, Detective Grunden showed me a composite of him which I will sign on the back of the photo.

  Taken by DETECTIVE ROBERT D. KEPPEL

  Statement of JACQUELINE MARIE PLISCHKE

  July 17, 1974

  On Sunday, July 14, 1974, at about 4 p.m., I arrived at Lake Sammamish State Park on my bicycle. I was there for about twenty minutes. I had gone to the point on the beach where they water ski from. I was approached by a white male, early twenties, 5’8”, medium build, dark blond hair, hair length was about to the middle of his ear, average skin tone, left arm in a sling and sling was beige in color. The sling was not neat, something, either a cast or wrap was over his arm. He had a wide face, average features and his speech was smooth. He talked clearly, no slang words – everything was distinct. The first thing he said was, “Hello, I was wondering if you could help me put my sailboat on my car?” I said, “I’m not very strong.” He said, “It’s better that I asked someone who was alone.” He answered my comments right away. I said, “I’m waiting for someone.” He then seemed to not have any interest in me.” He said, “Oh, I see.” Then he turned away and walked toward the bath house. I was about two feet from him.

  About fifteen minutes prior to talking with him, I had seen the same guy look at me when I came in. I just noticed his face and sling at that time. I was riding my bicycle. I was wearing blue jeans, sort of cut-offs, and a pink, very brief bikini top.

  About ten minutes after he left from talking with me, I looked at my watch and it was 4:30 p.m. I did not see him again. He did not act nervous. He was not pushy. He didn’t seem disappointed when I told him I was waiting for someone.

  I have read the above statement and it is true and correct to the best of my knowledge.

  Taken by ROBERT D. KEPPEL

  Statement by TAMMIE MICHELLE STEWART

  August 1, 1974, 1:45 a.m. or p.m.???

  On Sunday, July 14, 1974, at about 3 or 4 p.m., I was at Lake Sammamish State Park with Pam Culbertson. We were standing by the concession stand on the grass. A guy walked by us and Pam told me he had walked around us about eight times. I would describe him as about twenty-four to twenty-five years, 5’6”, medium build, 150 pounds, blondish-brown curly hair covering ears and down the back of his neck, dark tan. I think the right arm was in a white sling; white cast; he wore cut-offs, unknown what type, a white or yellow shirt was tied around his waist; white low-topped tennis shoes, no glasses. He was a white male. This guy walked around us for ten minutes and a girl came up and sat down about four feet from us. The girl had on a pair of cut-offs, white earrings and a light brown shag haircut. The guy came up and talked to her. I did not hear anything that was said. He talked to her for about fifteen minutes. I did not pay any attention to them. We left and I did not see him again. The girl he was talking to was not one of the missing girls.

  BOTHELL POLICE DEPARTMENT

  Statement of SINDI JANE SIEBENBAUM

  July 17, 1974, 1935 hrs

  On Sunday, July 14, 1974, I was at Lake Sammamish State Park. At approximately 4:00 p.m., I was heading back from the restrooms towards the point where my friends were. I was about a hundred yards from the restrooms when a man who was walking toward me said, “Excuse me, young lady, could you help me launch my sailboat?” I then asked him what he had done to his arm; he stated that he had sprained it and that he couldn’t find anyone to help him. I told him I was sorry, but I couldn’t help him because I had people waiting. He told me that the sailboat was up on the beach and that it would only take a few minutes. It appeared to me that he meant the boat was up towards the restrooms.

  I again told him I couldn’t help, however, he kept on asking. I talked to him for five or ten minutes. I finally just told him I was sorry and left. The last I saw of him, he was walking toward the restrooms.

  The man I was talking with was about 6’0”to 6’2”. I’m not sure how much he weighed, but I remember he was really skinny. I would say that he had a small frame and kind of boney. His hair was salt and pepper colored about two inches below his ears. It was parted in the middle and bangs over his forehead. It was curly, but looked like it had been styled. I think his eyes were either green or blue, and he looked bug-eyed and set back. His pupils were real small. I would guess this man to be in his thirties. He was clean shaven. It appeared to me that he was nervous. He spoke rapidly and gestured with his hands. His left arm was in a sling and it appeared to be the type a doctor would put on someone. He was wearing sort of a bleached-white boxer swimming suit and elastic for a waist band. His body had a full tan, not real dark, but he was tan. He had sort of a pointed nose and thin lips. I don’t recall him having any noticeable body hair.

  Taken by ROBERT D. KEPPEL

  Statement by PATRICK MICHAEL CULBERTSON

  On Sunday, July 14, 1974, at about 3 – 3:30 p.m., I was at Lake Sammamish State Park with Tammie Stewart. We were waiting for friends near the concession stand on the grass. I saw this guy walking around us. I was standing and Tammie was lying down. I would describe him as a white male, 5’7”, 145 pounds, thirty years, medium build, thin frame, light brown hair, parted in the middle, wavy down to back of his neck, blue eyes, thin nicely shaped nose, cheeks were hollow, pointed chin, hair over ears, nice tan, pants, white shirt hanging out back pocket, left arm in beige sling. The sling was around his neck. The left arm appeared to be wrapped. He gave me the impression he was foreign looking, like British, and he was good looking. He walked slowly and lightly. He looked odd to me.

  He kept walking around a circle, staring at Tammie and another girl. He approached the other girl. She was lying down. She was wearing a bikini top and blue jean cut-offs. The guy knelt down and talked to her. He talked to her for about three minutes. The next time I noticed him, about five minutes later, and the girl he was talking to were (sic) gone. I did not see him again. The guy was clean shaven. The girl he talked to was about four to five feet from Tammie and me.

  It seemed like he bent over a little bit when he walked. He did not appear to be with anyone. He didn’t seem like he had anywhere to go. He was not real hairy.

  I have read the above statement and it is true and correct to the best of my knowledge.

  Taken by DETECTIVE ROBERT D. KEPPEL

  Statement of BETTY J. BARRY

  July 17, 1974, 12:30 p.m.

  On 7/14/74 at 11:45 a.m., I was at Lake Sammamish State Park. I was with the Rainier Family Picnic. Around 3:30 or 4 p.m., I went to the ladies’ restroom. I saw a girl in the restroom, which I have positively identified as Denise Naslund. She was leaving as I went out. There was another girl that walked out the same time, who was wearing a maroon knit bikini top. Denise had talked to the other girl. The other girl was about the same size as Denise. Denise had on faded cut-off jeans, and a light-colored halter top. Her shoes were a brown Mexican-type sandal. They both appeared to be good looking.

  I have read the above statement and it is true and correct to the best of my knowledge.

  Taken by DETECTIVE ROLF T. GRUNDEN

  Statement of JACQUELINE CRAVEN

  July 18, 1974, 12:00 p.m.

  On Sunday, July 14, 1974, I went to Lake Sammamish State Park with my family. We got there at 3:30 p.m., and we stayed there until 4:45 p.m.

  Between 4:00 and 4:30, I went to the women’s restroom with my twenty-two-year-old daughter. The restroom is located in the middle of the park by the concession stand. As I was waiting for my daughter, I noticed a man with a sling on his left arm. He was walking back and forth in from of the restroom. He is described as follows: 5’7” – 5’8”, 170 pounds, good b
uild, tan, but fair complected (sic). He wore boxer-style swim trunks with Hawaiian print, with possibly a white waist band. He had some hair on his chest, but was not “hairy”. No shirt. The sling on his left arm was a regular triangular bandage, beige in color. The sling was soiled. It had a safety pin on the outside of the left elbow.

  His hair was dark brown, clean cut, sideburns about to the middle of the ear lobe. I don’t recall if he had glasses.

  Me and my daughter left the restroom area about 4:30 p.m. I don’t recall if he was still there when we left.

  This statement is true and correct to the best of my knowledge.

  What follows are the statements of those who knew Denise Naslund. We begin with Robin Woods, and continue with the remaining three individuals, Kenneth Little, Robert Sargent, and Nancy Battema, who were with Denise on July 14, and finish with Elenore Rose, Denise’s mother.

  Taken by DETECTIVE ROLF T. GRUNDEN

  Statement of ROBIN ROSE WOODS

  July 30, 1974, 1:00 p.m.

  I have known Denise Naslund since the seventh grade. We have known each other seven years. Denise was my roommate for seven months from October 10 to April 1, 1974.

  From November on, Kenny Little lived at our house.

  Denise is a person who has a good personality. She tends to get along good with people. I never saw Kenny or Denise fight physically, but I have heard them argue.

  We have used various types of dope but we tend to use marijuana.

  Denise always wore a black onyx ring. The band is yellow gold. The stone is tear-drop in shape. She also wore a gold wedding band on her little finger on either hand. On her right hand on her third finger she wore a ring with a light blue stone and a silver band. She wore a zodiac necklace, Libra sign. It was silver with black antique. She also wore a gold watch on her left hand.

  The last time I saw Denise was on July 3, 1974. She came to my house with her brother Brock and Kenny Little. Kenny came over to get his fishing pole. They were going to Fish Lake over in the eastern Washington area.

  Denise was mad and more or less didn’t want to go. She said her and Kenny had been arguing. Brock normally took Kenny’s side. She wished me and my boyfriend, Joe Alcon, could go. We couldn’t because we had company from out of town. They must have stayed five minutes and left. They left around 10:00 p.m.

  I left town to go to Nevada on July 9, 1974. I returned home July 14, 1974, at 10:30 p.m. From July 3, 1974, on, I have never heard from Denise. I am sure if she were around, I would have been the first person she would have contacted.

  I know she would never go anywhere with any motorcycle people because she feared them. She knows how they are from what I’ve told her.

  At one time Denise worked for Sellect Enterprise. It was a dating and escort service. She was a receptionist and bookkeeper. She never went out on dates.

  I would like to make it clear that Denise never worked at a body painting studio.

  I would like to add that Denise is the kind of person who likes to talk about herself to people who are interested or people she is interested in. If she was high on July14, 1974, she would be loose. If the guy was a smooth talker and good looking, Denise would then help him.

  This statement is true and correct to the best of my knowledge.

  Taken by ROBERT D. KEPPEL

  Statement of KENNETH LEROY LITTLE, JR.

  July 16, 1974, 8:30 p.m.

  On 7/14/74 in the afternoon, I was with Denise Naslund, Bob Sargent and Nancy. We met Bob and Nancy by Charlie’s East at 1230 hrs. to go to Lake Sammamish. We left Bob’s car there. We met Bob inside. We took Denise’s car. We got at the park at 13:30 hrs. There were no arguments between anyone and everything was cool. We met a couple of Bob’s friends. We sat at the park in front of the restroom. I had my dog with me. I kept having to get up and get my dog. I told Denise, she could get up once in a while and go look for him. She gave me a dirty look. Bob’s friends left sometime after the keg throw. Denise had dozed off. Then I lay back and went to sleep. We had stayed up late over the weekend and we were both pretty beat. I don’t know what time it was, but when I woke up Denise was gone. Nancy told me Denise had walked towards the restroom. Nancy had asked Denise what time it was and it was around 4 or 4:30. Denise had left her purse in the trunk of her car so no one would steal it. She usually goes nowhere without her purse. She always has track of it.

  Denise has hitchhiked in the past. Denise has been living with me for about nine months. We have lived at the Graham address for about four months.

  It takes quite a bit to get Denise mad. She has argued with me on previous occasions and she has never walked out on me. I don’t consider my comments about the dog as even an argument between us.

  Both of us were in a tired grumpy mood. We had stayed late at a card game and I told her we had to leave and she was a little upset about that.

  Denise doesn’t drink much. She might have had half a beer at the park but that was all. She had not had any drugs. She was not the type to contemplate suicide.

  Denise feels real responsible about her ITT Peterson School as a computer programmer. She would want to get back for her exam.

  Denise has two rings on each hand plus a watch. Two rings have blue stones. The one ring is a big blue stone in platinum. The other is a diamond shaped onyx, very large, black. She has a band on her little finger. She wears the watch on the left hand. The watch is gold with a chain clasp. When she left, she took a pack of Camel filter cigarettes.

  She had very short blue jean cutoffs with a black belt. Has ornamental piece of leather on each side of brass buckle. Buckle sticks through the leather to fasten. The cutoffs were frayed on the ends. She did not have all the belt loops. It had one belt loop in the back and one on each side. They were made from “leg” jeans. There is a leg tag on the back pocket. The cutoffs were faded and worn, no holes, pockets were intact. She had on a navy-blue halter top. It had a loop around the neck and tied in the back. It was a fine, silky texture. It was a dull blue.

  Normally she wears bikini underpants. She has pierced ears. She had good teeth, no fillings or color showing; no painted toe nails. Her finger nails were painted blue the day before. She had asked me what color I liked the best. I said blue.

  She would go either to her mother’s, grandmother’s house, her father’s, Robin’s house, or back to our house.

  During the time we were at the park, Denise was with me until I fell asleep. Her swimming suit was left with us as well as her sandals and towel. She would not go anywhere without sandals on her feet. She did not have any money on her.

  During the time when we were first at the park about 1300 hrs., Denise had four valium, five milligrams each, little yellow tablets. She smoked part of a joint. She is a friendly girl and if someone would offer her a joint she would take a toke. I’m sure she had complete control of her senses. She last had taken four valium Friday night. I don’t think she took anything (in addition) to that.* *Author’s note: this is somewhat unclear.

  She has been under a doctor’s care for (redacted).

  Just before we dozed off, we had eaten some hot dogs and chips.

  I have read the above statement and it is true and correct to the best of my knowledge.

  We searched the park until 8:30 p.m. on Sunday. Bob and Nancy took Denise’s car to get their car at about 8:00 p.m. and then they returned to the park.

  Taken by DETECTIVE RANDY S. HERGESHEIMER

  Statement of ROBERT J. SARGENT

  July 18, 1974

  On Sunday morning, July 14, 1974, my girlfriend, Nancy Battema and I called Ken Little and Denise Naslund and invited them to go to Lake Sammamish State Park. The four of us met at a tavern called Charley’s East in Eastgate. We had a beer in the tavern and left for the park about 1:00 p.m. in Denise’s tan Chevrolet. We got ice en route for the case of beer we had with the four of us. We got to
the park about 1:30 and parked. En route to the park, Denise, Ken and myself each ate four valiums. We parked and walked to the main picnic area and took up a spot halfway between the bathroom and the Rainier bandstand. At the parking lot we had met Don Cook and two girls who were friends of mine and Nancy’s. They joined us at our picnic spot. The seven of us shared a marijuana joint. We sat and talked and drank beer and listened to the band. Then Denise, Ken, Nancy, and I went over and watched the keg toss until it was over. We returned to our picnic area. We ran into Steve Campbell, a friend of mine, and talked to him for a while and he left. Don and the two girls were off somewhere else. The four of us then walked down to the lake to the end of the little peninsula where the boats were tied up. We watched the action there for a while and the four of us walked back to the concession stand. I got some snacks and the four of us returned to our picnic area where our towels and ice chest were. We talked and drank beer. Later I went to the restroom at the concession stand and after that I got hot dogs and hamburgers for the four of us. The four of us then ate the food at our picnic area after Denise awoke from a nap beside Ken. We sat and talked and drank beer. Around 4:15 p.m., Ken dozed off. About 4:40 p.m., Denise got up from where we were sitting and walked away without saying anything to me; that was not unusual, because I assumed she was going to the restroom or to find her dog that we had taken to the picnic. She never returned and we began searching for her. We looked all afternoon and evening without finding her. Before this day, I had only met Denise three times and I do not know her well, nor do I have any idea of where she might have gone or why.