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rescue. Primarily a sociological study, cities remain calm and the wheels of commerce turn, because
the President says so. Myth one. Inclusion in survival bunkers is determined by lottery, not by the
power mad elite who serve themselves only. Myth two. All citizens are deemed equal during this
lottery, unlike the real hopes of those wanting to impose Martial Law, which is to select out the
strongest specimens for their future worker class. Myth three. The public passively waits until told to
head for the hills, and then waits quietly in their cars on a stalled highway, expressing no more fury
at certain death behind them than an occasional honked horn, unlike the real reaction of a public
seeking safety in the hills, which is to tear through any barricade and grab any safety line in sight.
We have predicted that the public will start slipping to safety in stages, so that in the last days only
those unwilling or unable will be in direct danger such as in coastal cities, and that governments will
resist any announcement.
Volcano
Unlike real volcanic activity, which makes itself known in a steadfast manner, this volcano develops
inexplicably without any warning. The motive here is to warn those living on fault lines, and
especially those living in LA, that they should anticipate having their life disrupted with unpleasant
surprises. The reality is that those living in danger zones already are aware of their danger.
Volcanoes erupt, but usually rumble their way into the news well beforehand. Fault lines are quake
prone, and quakes strike like lightning, unpredictably. High tides roar in along coast lines, only
occasionally after an alert has been issued. Where cities have been built near active volcanoes, they
do not survive atop them. After the pole shift, when all volcanoes active or recently dormant should
be presumed to explode, life atop or downwind from volcanoes will be impossible. Fumes, lead
heavy ash, and gloom will prevail.
What is missing from these single thread movies, depicting disaster akin to the coming pole shift? It is the net, the
web, of problems, happening all at once. Communications are invariably intact in these movies, but in reality, phone lines and satellites will be down, and all transmissions fighting interference. Communications will be dead. A stalwart
military plods along like Boy Scouts, full of idealistic resolve. Collecting pay for a job is not the same as dedication to an ideal, and those with a strong need to control their environment, such as top commanders invariably have, are the
first to crumble when this control is gone. They rage. They bark orders. The mission at hand is not to rescue the public, but to regain control. Where one disaster is afflicting the public in these movies, the others politely hold back. Quakes
without fire storms from broken gas lines. Volcanoes without exploding factories from overheated ground. Life
threatening circumstances without fight or flight in people and their pets.
In the real pole shift, all will hit at once. There will be no rescue, no roads or railroads supporting travel, no
communications by any means, no electricity or hope of power restoration, and certainly no functioning government.
Survival groups must rely on themselves, cooperatively, and be practical. The real pole shift is not fiction, as are the
movies.
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ZetaTalk: Discovery Channel
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ZetaTalk: Discovery Channel
Note: written during the Dec 14, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
Discovery Channel has wanted to produce informative programs to prepare the public, but been denied. They have
been leaned on to emphasize the Sun as the cause, but resisted. They early approached Nancy on Planet X and
Troubled Times type content, but this was squelched. They are doing their best with a difficult situation, like
Spielberg. Depending on human hands, and which way this or that jumps, many dramas could ensue over the next few
weeks and months.
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ZetaTalk: Fire in the Sky
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ZetaTalk: Fire in the Sky
Note: written on May 15, 1996
The media portrayal of this true contactee experience did not adhere to the facts as relayed by the contactee. This is a
common complaint from contactees who lose control of the process - their stories, faithfully relayed in exquisite detail,
emerge from the hands of the media artists, painting an entirely different picture.
This episode was intended, by the good-hearted aliens and contactee involved, to promote the Awakening. The event
involved a significant amount of missing time, witnesses to lights in the sky and the sudden disappearance of the
contactee, and intense focus by the entire community on the sudden reappearance of the disheveled contactee. To that
extent, matters went as planned. Thereafter, the contactee was subjected to the hostile denial that is so common as to
be almost be routine in visible visitations. Where anticipated, this brutalizing of the contactee leaves its mark, and
standing up in the face of this hostility is no small matter. To add insult to injury, the media presented what was
essentially a healing process as a terrifying capture, confinement, and experimentation. Horror stories pack the
theaters, and this is, apparently, all that mattered.
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ZetaTalk: Stargate
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Note: written on Dec 15, 1995. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
The movie Stargate was a success in great part because it carried a grain of truth on many fronts, and this was
intuitively recognized by those in the audience. The relationship between pyramids and human enslavement; the use of
cruelty by those in the Service-to-Self as a form of control and the catalytic effect the courage of a single individual
can have in the face of such a reign of terror; and the obsession those who built the Great Pyramids had with
calibrating their flights into space. However, beyond these aspects, the movie had little relationship to facts, nor was
this a movie sponsored by the government to aid in the Awakening.
Rapid space travel does not require a portal. This is a primitive view foisted on humans by humans who regularly walk
through doors to move from one world to the next on Earth, whether this be from indoors to outdoors or from a
corridor into private chambers, portals or doorways are assumed to be required by humans for the magical change that
takes place. Nor are humans held in slavery elsewhere in the Universe by the hominoids from the 12th Planet or any
other alien race, as such practices work against the free will that 3rd Density forming entities are to experience and are
simply not allowed. This is why such arrangements in the past, during visits by the hominoids from the 12th Planet,
were stopped shortly after they arose. However, both cultural and spiritual memories exist to remind humankind of
such practices, however brief, in the past, and thus the genuine appeal of the movie Stargate.
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ZetaTalk: ID4
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Note: written on Apr 15, 1996. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
Pseudo-fiction in movies as a tool to speed the Awakening is a tool that can be used to serve those in the Service-to-
Self or Service-to-Others orientation. If ET and Close Encounters gave a warm message of friendship, and Star Wars a sense of hope in the battle between the forces of darkness and light, then the movie ID4 is relaying a message of
doom. In battles with those in the Service- to-Self, you will be conquered. This is the message. It is not by accident
that the conquerors arrived on a traveling red world, reminiscent of the true traveling 12th Planet, which appears red
when viewed from a distance due to the iron ore dust in its tail. It is not by accident that the inhabitants have desires to
conquer the Earth, as the inhabitants of the 12th Planet have a long history of just such activity on Earth, and legends
abound regarding this.
ID4 is designed, by more than the producers, to make the populace uneasy, going into the forthcoming pole shift and Transformation. Who so desires this? The establishment, who wants none of this friendly communication with aliens
to proceed. Unlike the situation depicted in the movie ID4, they intend for the inhabitants of the Earth to remain as
their slaves, which indeed is how they view them.
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ZetaTalk: When Worlds Collide
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Note: written on Feb 15, 2002
Imagine the mindset of MJ12 when they encountered the Service-to-Self aliens who rushed in during the time of
Roswell to form bonds with the US government before the Service-to-Other could do so. This was the defense
department, the military, who are paranoid about intrusions in any case and tend to be hyper-organized and control
oriented. They found the rules and regulations the Service-to-Self aliens had in place a comfort, but were uneasy.
They sensed a coldness, agendas not explained. After Roswell, when the Service-to-Other made contact by crashing
and injuring themselves, they concluded that aliens were not all competent or of the same mindset. However, in that
the Service-to-Self had not crashed during an introduction, they took this group to be more competent, and having the
upper hand. It took some time for the nature of the two groups to sort out in MJ12's mind, in fact long after Nancy's
recent engagement where she had to explain a few matters to them.
Consequently, members of MJ12 had long talks into the night with each other on the possible scenarios. Movies such
as When Worlds Collide reflect those anxieties. Early movies about aliens invariably presented the alien presence as
technologically advanced, but cold. They presented the agenda of a takeover, something the military mind would fret
about in any case. Intrusion into human society, infecting and influencing humans, and when the time was right,
eliminating mankind and taking the Earth for themselves. Look back over the menu Hollywood offered, during those
decades, and you see the mindset of MJ12 in the early days. Later movies, such as ET and Close Encounters, presented kindness and eager contactees. Expect more of this, as when MJ12 finally sorted it all out, they realized that a stiff arm
to the alien presence plays into the Service-to-Self agenda, and set out to right their prior wrongs.
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ZetaTalk: Signs
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Note: recorded during the May 11, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
The message from the establishment on the meaning of crop cirles is:
1. cling to your government, who will protect you,
2. be suspicious of anything alien, they are out to eat or enslave you,
3. man wins out over aliens, even with inferior technology.
Nothing new in the movie business, sad to say.
Note: below added during the August 31, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
Since the movie Signs generated interest and attendance, the powers that be have decided countering information was
required. Not enough that Signs presented aliens, once again, as desiring to carry off and eat humans, and that humans
could counter this by going mano-a-mano with aliens, hand to hand combat. Both silly premises. But Signs made the
mistake of actually informing the public at large that crop circles, genuine circles, had a quality that humans could not
perpetrate - bend but not broken grain. To the horror of the elite, who want the human populace to only cling to them,
and to fear and push away the alien presence, the public went to see this movie in droves, and commented among
themselves about the validity of crop circles being alien. Thus, two phenomena emerged, shortly after the premiere.
1. 1. fake crop circles, reasonably well done, emerged, which could be claimed later to be fakes, which they are.
2. 2. books and supposed experts emerged confusing the issue, claiming that fakes are real, real are fakes, and the
like.
The real focus should be on those characteristics which cannot be faked, such as the bent but not broken grain, then
continues to grow! Is this being placed as the defining characteristic? Not at all, and thus is proof of the disinformation characteristic of the current crop circle blitz.
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ZetaTalk: War of the Worlds
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ZetaTalk: War of the Worlds
written July 6, 2005
Would the Zetas care to comment on the new movie adaptation of H. G. Wells' novel, "War of the
Worlds"? The movie is directed by Steven Spielberg, whom the Zetas have spoken about in the past and
whose previous works of science fiction have depicted a benign alien presence. Is there a purpose behind
this latest presentation of a hostile alien threat?
As we mentioned on a previous work by Spielberg, the TV series Taken, Spielberg is adept at delivering the correct message, the truth, even when struggling with the imposition of government censorship where the only message about
aliens allowed is that they cannot be trusted, are here to enslave mankind, but the government can be trusted to be
truthful and protective. A remake of the War of the Worlds, a known story line, got easy approval. While sticking to
the story line, what hidden messages for mankind did Spielberg manage to deliver? Remove the arrival of vicious
blood sucking aliens as the source of panic and replace this with the days of horror during the pole shift. What is the
reaction of the populace?
At first stunned disbelief, the public failing to take action, failing to see the need to move to safety or even
understanding what steps to be taken, as they do not understand what is occurring. We have stated that going
into the pole shift, most of the worlds populace will have no idea what is about to occur, due to the cover-up.
Conveniently, in the movie, all electrical devices, including cars, fail to operate so the populace stays in the dark,
incommunicado. We have stated that during the week of rotation stoppage, when the countdown to the pole shift
is a matter of days, that travel will be impossible unless by foot.
Mass migrations begin to occur, everyone assuming there is a safe location someplace ahead, spared of the
rampaging aliens, even when they may be walking
into danger. We have stated that following the pole shift
there will be endless migrations, as people someplace where life is better, though the whole world will have
been affected.
Random acts of kindness, a couple concerned about a child apparently left abandoned, play in counterpoint with
mob panic, where hundreds of refuges on the road are each trying to take control of a single running vehicle,
murder and mayhem all around. We have stated that survivors of the coming pole shift must plan on being in
small groups, and away from heavy traffic lanes.
Insanity, even in those who are seemingly prepared to survive, stocked up and bunkered down, with weapons, is
depicted. In the man gone insane, his weapons is in essence used against him, as it would give away his position,
certain death. We have stated that insanity will be rampant after the pole shift, and guns cannot be assumed to
remain in the hands of sober men, as the head of the family himself may be the first to slip into insanity.
Thus, the message that Nancy hoped to deliver with her production of The Passage is being delivered insteadby
Spielberg, as there are many angels at work and many routes to a goal.
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ZetaTalk: Theosophists
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ZetaTalk: Theosophists
Note: written on Jul 15, 1995
Past Theosophist writings had valid insights, but were not from a channel. Their accuracy came from knowledge the
entity brought with it into the incarnation. The early Theosophists were Star Children, whose mission was education of
mankind. The Theosophists, being ahead of their time in the concerns they addressed and too intellectual for the
masses, were ignored by the establishment, which did not see in them a threat. Thus their message has not been
undermined in the same manner as the message of Jesus, for instance, who spoke plainly to the masses and challenged
the establishment directly and repeatedly.