Remember, the sun goes under the throne of Allah which is already over the water. This is why the sun is going down in the muddy water, to bow down to Allah under his throne, as the verse says in:
Qur’an 18:85-86
85 In the way he went through.
86Until, when he reached where the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of muddy water, near it. He found people: We (Allah) said, to him O (Alexander)! We ask you either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness.
Qur’an 11:7
Allah is He who produced the heavens and the earth in six days along with His Throne over the waters.
6. By making the connection between the hadiths and the verses, you then realize that what Islam teaches is the sun going every night to the end of the earth to bow down to Allah under his throne, in the muddy water.
We will stop here and study this part of the chapter.
27The king Tub'a (King Hassan)
This story is coming from the legend of the Arabs through a man named King Hassan. He was known as Tub'a عبت and was from Yemen. I am sure some are wondering where all these names are coming from since you had never heard of them before. At one point of time, these names were very powerful. Men in their countries and some of them were powerful kings. Simply, Muhammad wanted to be like them. Let us see who Tub'a was and what Muhammad took from him. To do so, we will go to Islamic books so Muslims cannot say we are making up these stories.
First who is Tub'a? The word Tub'a in fact its a title not a name for any king he rule 3 kingdomes in the same time of Saba, Himyar, And Hadramaut.and it was giving for “King Hassan” because he rules the three kingdoms as some historical source, Tub'a Abu Kariba As'ad, was the Himyarite king of Yemen. He ruled Yemen from 390–420 CE.
Some state that he was from the Jews, but his poet confirm him as a Christian.
The Book of Al-Qur’tubi (collection of Qur’anic laws), print year 1973 (Al Jame' be A'hkam Al Qur’an), p. 421:
Ibn Abbas said, “my father, Ibn Abbas, read it for me as the prophet Muhammad did.” page 421, he said, “it set in muddy water.” Moa'aweah said, “it's not muddy, it is hot water.” then Ibn Abbas asked (Ka'eb) (this man was Jewish and was forced to convert to Islam), what does it say in your Old Testament, (Ka'eb) said, “in my book the sun sets in muddy water.”! So, Ibn Abbas agreed and they accepted the correct word in the Qur’an to be muddy water, not hot water and the poet man (Tub'a) said,: “Zo el Qarnayn (Alexander) was before me a Muslim king, a king of who kings obey and bow down to, He reached the end of the west and the end of the east looking for authority by the guide of knowledgeable God, AND HE FOUND THE SUN SETTING-PLACES IN A MUDDY WATER.”
1. Here we notice two things. They are not sure of the correct word in the Qur’an, whether it's hot water or muddy water. I think you would agree with me that the difference of the meaning is huge, yet the Muslims claim Qur'an was preserved! If so, then why are they not sure of the correct word?.
2. This poem was told long before Muhammad was even born. Who do you think copied from whom? It's very clear that Muhammad copied the text from King Hassan who was called Tub'a.
3. King Hassan, as known as Tub'a, was saying in his poem that Alexander the Great was a Muslim and that he had found the sun set in muddy water. Furthermore, notice here that the one who is mentioning the name of Tub'a is the cousin of Muhammad (Ibn Abbas) explaining that the verse is not that strange.
This was the Muslims’ version of the story but if we go deep into the Arab legends, there is a book from Arab Heritage called (“Al-Zerr Salem Al Muhalhel”, Vol. 1. This was one of the most powerful tribes of the Arabs and most of them were Christians.
28The greatest saga of Hassan the Tub'a
This is poetry from King Hassan Tub'a, sent to the tribe of Rabi'a, wherein most if not all of them, were Christians. The King of Yemen Tub'a said, “A fire in my heart burning O ye the prince (Kleb) the knight of the tribe of Rabi'a O ye who protect the women in the day of war, Today, I will tell you something to inform you about the news of mankind. Moses was a prophet he was in the world with his book of guidance!
And David came with the Psalms to help these who have filth! And Jesus the son of Mary brought the Gospel of SALAVATION to call a prophet! No one was like him! For God Chose him to be Sacrificed! How many did he raise from death by his words! How many in sick were healed.”
Here we see that Tuba, or King Hassan as his real name, is praising Moses and David, but the most important is that he called Jesus a Savior and as the one who was chosen by God to be sacrificed and that he raised many from death by one word! It's pretty much Christian.
Also notice that he said, “to call a prophet” which meant that Christ made him a prophet! This “prophet” is doing the same as Muhammad, except with some differences in the way he saw Jesus.
The most important thing we found is where Muhammad got the reproduction story of Alexander the Great. At the same time, we observe some information about the history of some of the false prophets in Arabia before Muhammad, and how they influenced him. Later on, we will talk about a new prophet. His name is Mani.
Things will get more interesting when we read that Tub'a and Muhammad both worshiped the Kaaba! In the book of correct hadith (Musanad Ahmad 37/519), Muhammad said, do not curse Tub'a as he became a Muslim!
Now Tub'a had a successor, one of his grandsons (Asa'ad Al Hamiry). Muhammad said that he was the first who dressed the Kaaba in Mecca.
Ibn Ishaq said “he was (Tub'a 700 years before Islam) and that explained his poetry about Christ, so it was most probably that he was in same time of Christ.”
In page 72: “The Messenger – Allah pray on him – I don't know if he was bad or no, And also he Said don't don't curse Tub'a,He was a true believer,if this is a true hadith the messenger know better and we don't know....,And Abu Huraira said that the Messenger of - Allah pray on him - said to revile don't curse Tub'a he was first to clothed Kaaba.”
As you see in here, Tub'a according to Muhammad's story is the first to cover the Kaaba with clothing which means he is not only very wealthy but he is in control.
The fact is that Tub'a was in the 5th Century. Muhammad said, do not curse Tub'a for he was a believer. On the same page it speaks about one of his successors being the first one to dress the Kaaba. Things get more interesting when Muhammad said, “I am not sure if Tub'a is filthy or not!” If Muhammad is not sure if Tub'a is bad or good, why did Allah count him as one of his messengers in the Qur’an?
29Even Allah speaks about Tub'a in his Qur’an
And the Companions of the Wood, and the People of Tub'a; each one of the two nations rejected the Messengers, and My warning was truly fulfilled.(Qur’an 50:14).
Tafsir Ibn 'Abbas, trans. Mokrane Guezzou “(And the dwellers in the wood) the people of Shu'ayb denied Shu'ayb, (and the folk of Tubba') Tubba' was the king of Himyar. His name was As'ad Ibn Malkikarb, and his agnomen was Abu Karb and he was called Tubba' because of the huge number of his followers (atba'); he was also a person who surrendered to Allah: (every one) of these folk (denied their messengers) just as your folk, the Quraysh, denied you, (therefore My threat took effect) and therefore My punishment and torment were enjoined upon them when they denied the messengers.”
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You may have some Muslims trying to fool you by saying, “Where did you get that from? This verse means that Tub'a is a prophet of Allah.” If you read the verse, you will see the answer there: each one of the two nations rejected the Messengers. Allah called them by Tub'a's name, just as he referred to the Jews as the people of Moses, and many others from the Muslims’ prophet-hood.
OF the people of Moses there are some who guide and do justice by truth. (Qur’an 7:159)
Also: The people of Lot accused their messenger of falsification. (Lot in Islam is a Prophet). (Qur’an 26:160)
...after the people of Noah. (Qur’an 7:159)
The People of Yunus (Muslim prophet). (Qur’an 10:98)
th e Peopl e of H ud ! (Mu sli m p roph et). (Qur’an 11:69) "Hey my people! It will Criminalize you to be my enemy, because of your sin, you will suffer a fate similar to that of the people of Noah or of Hud or of Salih, nor are the people of Lot is it not far off from you! (Qur’an 11:89)
In all of these verses, the one that is bad, or accused of being bad, or asked not to do since it’s bad, are not the names of these men. Still, all of this is not even enough to convince me that Tub'a is from Islam's prophet-hood. We will go to:
Al-Jalalayn’s interpretation
The people of the wood is the people of prophet (Shoa'eb) and the people of Tub'a who is a king from Yemen who became a Muslim and he called his nation to Islam and they did not believe him (and that makes him a Messenger of Allah).
The important thing to realize is that Muhammad was a copy of men who claimed to be prophets or men of God. He wanted to be like them to the point that he was copying their words and claiming that it was from his god. Just like the poem of Tub'a, which became part of the Qur’an, as I showed you:
Zo el Qarnayn (Alexander the Great) was before me a Muslim king, a king which to him kings obey and bow down to, He reached the end of the west and the end of the east looking for authority by the guide of knowledgeable God, AND HE FOUND THE SUN SETTING-PLACES IN A MUDDY WATER.
And the amazing discovery I found out was that the Qur’an in Arabic was made exactly the way Qur’an or their holy claim came from their claimed prophet of God.
Tub'a And this is one of his statements of his good inspiration. This book is one of the most famous Arab legends. Al-Zerr Salem was an Arab Christian who was one of the top brave men in the Arab history, same as 'Antra Ibn Shadad. He was also a son of Arab Christians and are both known as the top Arab historical lion hearts.
Note the following Arabic text is the same as it was written in the original book.
The Book of Al-Zerr Salem Vol. 2, The Greatest Epic Poet
“None comparable to him (Jesus) of the prophet-hood was chosen by Allah as Savior and . How many? He (Jesus) by a word from him resurrect from death and sick ones he heals from the handicap.” …......................
(Then the poet kept going until it spoke about the Mahdi.) …......................
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From here we learn that Muhammad copy the story of Al-Mahdi from old Arab men:
“Reported Abu Sa'id al Khudri: The Prophet (Allah pray on him and salute him) said,: The Mahdi will be of my offspring, and will have a broad forehead with long nose. He will fill the earth will equity and justice as it was filled with injustice and oppression and he will rule for seven years. (Abu Daoud, Book 36, Hadith 4272)”.
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“Tub'a said,: And after that a beast will come out fast and will do wounder on the earth.” Qur’an 27:82
“And when the order shall come to pass against them, We shall bring forth for them a beast from the earth that shall I wound them, because people did not believe in Our signs.”
“Then after a blazing fire comes out of Eden it will destroy many of the mankind, and afterwords. The sun appears from the west and mankind is full of corruption.
Then the door of mercy will be closed and the door of evil will open.”
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Read with me this hadith and notice how Muhammad is copying his religion from Tub'a’s words.
Chapter Al-An'am 6:158
Sahih Al-Bukhari, Book 60, Hadith 159 Stated by Abu Huraira: Allah's Messenger revealed "The Judgment time will not be demonstrated until the sun rises from the west: and when the people see it, then whoever will be living on the face of the earth will have the belief, but that is the time when belief will do no good to a soul which believing after that if it believed not previously.
And Gog and Magog, people swarm from every hill. …............................................ Qur’an 21:96
Until the Gog and Magog, people are let through their blockade, and they immediately swarm from every hill.
It’s evidently clear that Muhammad copied many of his fairytale stories from Tub'a as he used his ways of reciting the Arabic stories.
Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Hadith 0296 Abu Huraira reported that the Messenger of Allah (may Allah pray on him and salute him) explained that,: “when three things come true, faith will not benefit anyone but whom he has previously believed, the rising of the sun in its place of setting (the west), the Dajjal (The antiChrist), and the beast of the earth.”
It is certain that Muhammad copied the story of Gog and Magog from Tub'a. And Tub'a got some of his information from the Bible but not all of it. The rest of the text is from his own and others.
Revelation 20:7-10 - KJV 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
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30ALEXANDER THE PROPHET OF ALLAH After all of this, the story of Alexander the Great is still finished. Some of you may not know that Alexander was bisexual. This will raise some more questions! How did Allah choose him to be his prophet? Again, some Muslims might say that the Qur’an says he is a prophet based in verse 18:84.
Qur’an 18:84
Allah said, we gave him victory and mean and authority of every kind.
Also, in Qur’an 18:86, Allah is speaking directly to Alexander the Great and states: Qur’an 18:86
86 Until, while he arrived at the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy water spring and found community at that location. We
said,: O Zo el Qarnayn! (Alexander the Great) Either penalize or be kind to them. Alexander is executing Allah’s orders. He is even closer to Allah than Muhammad was because Muhammad never spoke to Allah. He was always getting his Qur’an verses directly from his favorite angel “pizza delivery boy,” Jibreel (Gabriel).
1. The first order was the punishment for those who did wrong. Most of the interpretations of punishment speak about killing them, but some say it's about forcing them to pay.
2. Pay Jizyah (penalty for rejecting Allah). If they accept Islam, they are not punished. 3. Be kind to those who do well by becoming a Muslim.
4. This also means that this nation had both Muslims and infidels. As it shows in book of interpretations by:
Tafsir Al Baher Al Muheet/Abu Haian, Islamic year 754 And him saying (Allah) “that either you punish them with Tortures” meaning to kill them for being Kufar (infidels) “or you do good to them” meaning make them accept to believe in Allah, so either call them Kufar and then you have to kill them or they believe and then you will be nice to them.
We can find the same explanation in the book of Majma' AL-Bayian, Vol. 6, p. 940 940 ص - 6 ج / نايبلا عمجم
The Book of AL-Shirazi, Vol. 12, p.545/549 549 – 545) ص - 12 ج / يزاريشلل )
5. Is Alexander the Great a prophet or an angel? Some Muslims think he was an angel but some interpretations say he was both or an angel. This is the interpretation of Muqatil Ibn Suliman, year 150 Islamic year. He said,:
Alexander is Czar and he was called the king, the holder, for he held the mountain of Qaf and this mountain is surrounding the world from all sides. And about the name ZO EL QARNAYN, he was called this way for he arrived t
o the two horns of the sun, the west and east, until he found the sun set in a muddy water, meaning hot and black, and so Allah sent him angel Gabriel and he told him either you punish them or you forgive them. These were Allah's orders for him and what he told him. As we see in this explanation, Alexander is a prophet for sure.
In another interpretation of Al Dor Al Manthor/Al-Soiuty year 911 Islamic calender:
A group of Jews came to Muhammad asking him: you told us about many prophets but all are already named in our Book! Can you name for us one prophet that is not in our Book? Then Muhammad said, answering, (ZO EL QARNAYN) and then the Jews left happy. And before arriving to their houses, Gabriel brought the revelation about Zo El Qarnayn!
● We need to notice the fact that Muhammad was trapped by the Jews' question. It's very clear that it was a question to expose his falsification. I think they did great when he gave the foolish answer of naming Alexander the Great a prophet.
In the book of Al-Qur’tubi (Al Jame' LE A'hkam Al Qur’an) year 671, Ali (Muhammad’s cousin) and his son-in-law said that Alexander the Great was an angel. This is why he said, when he heard a man calling another by the name (Zo El Qarnayn), he (Ali) said, “What's wrong with you? It's enough for you using names of prophets for yourself, but you are using the name of an angel!”
I can show many more of these references but at the end, all of them just demonstrate that Muhammad who is himself confused caused a lot of confusion.
The legends of the Arabs and the Persians have no ending because the stories of Alexander are not over yet. After he found out where the sun sat, it was time for him to find where the sun rose.
Qur’an 18:89-90
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