Qur'an And Science in Depth_This book go in deep study about the Qur'an and Science investigating the truthful of facts or claims.
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LAYERS OF HEAVENS http://www.harunyahya.com/en/Miracles-of-theQuran/27241/the-layers-of-the-atmosphere Qur’an 67:3
“He created the seven heavens (skies) in layers. You do not see any imperfection in the creation by the Gracious. Turn your eyes again. Do you see any flaw?
“The different layers of our atmosphere could not have been known at the time of the Prophet. This fact cannot have been established fortuitously. The Qur’an refers to different layers in the atmosphere in perfect accord with each other.”
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Just to show you the dishonesty of Muslims, allow me to remind
you what Allah stated in: Qur’an 67:5
And We have decorated the lowest heaven with lamps, and made them missiles against the devils and We have prepared for them the punishment of the Blaze.
If the seven heavens (skies) in layers are meant to be the atmosphere: 1. Where are the seventy-two “Hoor” women who are waiting for Muslims inside their god Allah’s atmosphere? Allah clearly said that he created seven heavens. These are all the heavens and nothing else! Who then created space beyond the atmosphere?
2. If all the seven heavens are the seven LAYERS OF the atmosphere, then that would mean stars is in the atmosphere too.
3. This would also mean that the confines of the earth are the ground, not the atmosphere, because if we fly inside it, it means we are already inside Allah's heaven.
4. On top of that, where does it say in science that the atmosphere contains seven layers?
We get this from NASA:
Earth's atmosphere: the atmosphere. It reaches over 560 kilometers (348 miles). 1. Troposphere
The troposphere starts at the Earth's surface and extends 8 to 14.5 kilometers high (5 to 9 miles).
2. Stratosphere
The stratosphere starts just above the troposphere and extends to 50 kilometers (31 miles) high.
3. Mesosphere
The mesosphere starts just above the stratosphere and extends to 85 kilometers (53 miles) high.
4 .Thermosphere
The thermosphere starts just above the mesosphere and extends to 600 kilometers (372 miles) high
It's so clear that Muslims counted the layers of the atmosphere and they made it seven! Sure! Why not? We can lie for the sake of Allah! Right?
We now have to consider the other part of the verse: Qur’an 65:12
God, who created the seven skies and of earth identical number, It sounds like Muhammad is copying numbers from other books and ancient stories. Seven skies, seven seas, seven dwarfs... Where can we find the seven earths? Are there seven continents?
The definition of a continent is: one of several large land masses on earth. They are part of the earth. They can't each be an earth by itself. If we dry out all the water, i they’re all separately as one large lang mass moving over the hot magma. Let us take a look at how Muslims see the verse in their explanation.
ريسفت Tafsir Ibn Kathir
{َّلٱ ّنَأ ْاۤوُمَلْعَتّل ّنُهَنْيَبُرْمَلٱ ُلّزَنَتَي ّنُهَلْثِمِضْرَلٱ َنِمَوٍتَٰوَٰمَس َعْبَس َقَلَخ يِذّلٱ ُّلٱ ًامْلِعٍءْيَش ّلُكِبَطاَحَأ ْدَقَّلٱ ّنَأَوٌريِدَقٍءْيَش ّلُك ٰىَلَع } "God created the seven heavens." The interpretation means that Noah said to his people: "Did you see how God created the seven heavens one above another?" He also said, "seven heavens and earths and deeds" as well as "and of the earths as a female." of equal numbers There are seven earths and the distance between each them is five hundred years. Ibn Mas'ud and others also said the same thing. “
In Ibn Kathir’s interpretation, there are 7 earths inside our earth and the distance between each one of them is 500 years. I am not sure if 500 years is the distance with the speed of a camel, or a horse, or a donkey, but for sure I don’t need 500 years with walking speed to go the distance between the two poles of the earth.
As you see in Ibn Abbas’ explanation, who has received all of his information from his cousin Muhammad, he said the following:
Allah Who created seven heavens one on top of eachother like a dome, and of the earth a same number, seven earths which are flat.
There are seven earths and they are all flat! This means there must be six other earths just like ours! Allah should know that the word continent already exists in the Arabic language. If Allah meant to use this word, he should have used it! Also, if the Qur’an says that Allah created seven earths and seven skies, this would mean that the number of planets in universe is only seven as with earth being one of it!
If the seven earths mean seven continents, this would be a scientific mistake, for the oceans may separate them, but they’re all part of one earth. On top of that, science tells us that earth used to be one huge continent. They were not created as seven, but as one. Although Allah said he created seven earths, this would mean that they were seven earths created right from the beginning of his creation. This is not the case for the continents. In fact, what science says today is that there used to be one continent but due to the movement of the magma, the one continent became many.
Sahih Muslim
Book 010, Number 3925; see also Numbers 3920-3924 Allah's Messenger said,: He who takes over even a piece of land would be made to have on around
his neck seven earths. Let us see from where the Qur’an got the number of seven earths. If you search for old writings of the planets in early Greek astronomy, and I'm talking about thousands of years before Islam even existed, you will find they counted seven planets that could be seen with the naked eye: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, the Sun and the Moon. These all are from Greek Mythology.
Greek Mythology connected gods to astronomy; therefore the planets were ascribed to deities. Each one had a job and a name. Notice they considered the sun as a planet too, which totaled the seven:
1. Saturn: Kronos 5. Sun: Phoebus
2.Jupiter: Zeus, Jove 6. Mercury: Hermes
3.Mars: Ares 7. Moon: Selene
4.Venus: Inanna, Aphrodite, Ishtar, Isis, Lucifer
Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 54, Number 417
See also Numbers 418, 420; Volume 3, Book 43, Numbers 632-634 Reported by Muhammad bin Ibrahim bin Al-Hadith: From Abu Salama bin 'Abd-Al-Rahman which had an argument with some people on a division of land, and therefore, he went to 'Aisha and said, to her regarding it. She said, “O Abu Salamah, avoid the land, for Allah’s Apostle revealed, ‘Any human being, that seizes even a span of land unfairly his neck shall be surrounded with it down seven earths.’”
As a result, Muhammad was most likely copying the words he had heard in his own community, but he must have been very confused about them because in his words, as we saw in the hadith, he thought there were seven earths in the earth, “shall be surrounded with it down seven earths.’"
Notice here what Allah is saying: Qur’an 65:12
God, who created the seven heavens and of the earth a same number, the Command descends between them so you may know that God knew all things, capable of everything.
It says he will descend between them. The word “them” goes for both the seven heavens and seven earths. The word “command” is about the angels, as it states in:
Qur’an 70:4
(The Angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a Day the measure whereof is fifty thousand years,) who rule the seven heaven and seven earth for Allah,
Add to that, the Qur’an clearly said many times that Allah created one earth as we see in: Qur’an 3:190
In the creation of the heavens and the earth and the alternation of night and day are signs for men of understanding.
Notice here that it says heavens and earth. Why is he talking about seven now? Simply because he is referring to the planets around the earth including the seven skies. It’s very clear that he meant the seven planets which were known thousands of years before Muhammad that could be seen with the naked eye.
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English translation of Sahih Al-Bukhari Book 21, Hadith 246:
Muhammad said, “Our Lord, the great, comes every night down to the lowest Heaven to us by the last third period of the night, calling, ‘anyone in attendance to call upon Me, so that I may answer to his intercession? Is there any attendance anyone to ask Me, so that I may grant him what he is asking me for? Is there anyone struggling for My forgiveness, so that I may forgive him?’”
After reading this hadith, if the seven heavens (skies) in layers are meant to be the atmosphere, then this means:
1. Allah lives in the thermosphere (the top of atmosphere). 2. Allah comes down to the lowest heaven; therefore does Allah live and move between the layers of the atmosphere?
3. When Muhammad went to his god in heaven, he did not leave earth! He was in the atmosphere where he found seven gates and gardens and big trees and four rivers, including the Nile River and the Euphrates. See The Deception of Allah Volume 1, Hadith translation, Sahih Al-Bukhari, Book 58, Hadith 226.
How do Muslims explain this hadith to us? Sahih Al-Bukhari, Book 93, Hadith 578 Allah’s Messenger said, “There are angels coming to you in a cycle at night, and others during the day, and they all (the angels) gather at the time of 'Asr (afternoon) and Fajr prayer (morning prayer). Then the angels who have stayed with you overnight ascend to Allah (Allah’s Heaven), and He questions them, although he impeccably apprehends their affairs. ‘In what state have you left, my slaves?’ They say, ‘When we left them, they were praying and when we approached them, they were praying.’”
• And they all (the angels) gather at the time of 'Asr (afternoon) and Fajr prayer (morning prayer).
• This means the earth has one time of Fajer prayer.
• There are only two shifts for the angels: day and night, in a 24-hour cycle. • This means the earth has one time zone. This is why there is one for the afternoon prayer, and one for the morning prayer.
• All angels gather in one location to do the morning prayer and the afternoon prayer for there is always one time zone.
• This is false and it proves that the angels go through the seven skies. They go up and down facing one direction at the top of the flat earth which all have one time zone.
• All of this proves that Muhammad is telling a falsification.
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Muslims’ claim
36THE EXPANDING EARTH
http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_98.html
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My answer This claim is not even worth the time to answer as it's going to be answered when we speak about the flat earth in the Qur’an. Yes, that is exactly what Muhammad said. We will see that when we answer the topic of the flat earth.
Read these Biblical verses: Job 26:7 - KJV
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
Isaiah 40:22 - KJV
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
This verse alone shows three scientific facts.
1. It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth
2. that stretcheth out the heavens, and
3. spreadeth them out as a tent.
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Muslims’ claim
THE EARTH DISGORGES ITS CHARGES
http://www.harunyahya.com/miracles_of_the_Qur’an_p1_04.ph p#4 When the earth is convulsed with its quaking and the earth then disgorges its charges and man asks, "What is wrong with it?", on that Day it will impart all its news. (Qur’an, 99:1-4)
The word "zilzal" in Arabic means earthquake, or tremors, and the word "athqalaha" means "charges, heavy burdens." When one considers the above verses in the light of the first meaning, it can be seen that reference is being made to an important scientific fact about earthquakes.
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My answer Muslims think they can blind us with foolishness and science. What scientists say has nothing to do with what the Qur’an said. Let us expose the falsification:
Qur’an 99:1-8
1When the earth is trembled with its last minute earthquake.
2 And when the earth sends out its loads.
3 And man will say: "What is the wrong with it?"
4 That Day it (earth) will reveal its news.
5 For its Lord will have given her (earth) inspiration. 6 That Day (Judgment day) mankind will move on in disordered groups that they may be disclosed their records (bad and good deeds).
7 therefore, whosoever does good equal to the weight of Sand atoms. He shall see it.
8And whosoever does evil equal to the weight of Sand atoms shall see it.
SAND ATOMS 1 .Here, the Qur’an speaks about Judgment day and not about the present day which can be found in all Islamic interpretations.
2.Earth will tell its news. It's not about anything that they are saying but about the sin of mankind. Qur’an 99:4
That Day it (earth) will reveal its news.” The load of the earth is the news of mankind.
Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs That day the earth is shaken and it will relate its recorders, the earth will inform its news about good and evil that were done on its outside face.
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3.For sure, the earth will not talk of the news. It's about the sins of mankind: bad, good, and deeds. 4 .Qur’an 99:5: “For its Lord will have given her (the earth) inspiration.” Is the earth inspired by Allah a metal?
5.What is the metal in this verse of the Qur’an? All that the Qur’an is speaking about is something that many who live in earthquake-prone areas already know. You can even read that Mecca itself is under a big earthquake threat. (A swarm of thousands of earthquakes that struck the corner of Saudi Arabia). http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39380701/
6.My comment to Muslims is that it's so embarrassing to make up stories and to create miracles from nothing.
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Muslims’ claim
37THE RATIO OF THE SEA TO THE LAND http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/mathematical_17.html
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My answer I will show you why we cannot trust numbers given by Muslims. Never ever.
According to them, the word land appears 13 times in the entire Qur’an! If you can, please go to the Saudi government’s website. It’s in English. Search for the word “land”. It will appear 273 times in the Qur’an!
http://Qur’an.al-islam.com/Search/AdvSrch.asp?Lang=eng
If you search for the word land in Arabic on searchtruth.com, it will come as this:
The Arabic word(s) “Ared” or in Eng as “land” appears in 461 verses in the Qur’an. Depend of the translation. Click here
1.In Mohsin Khan's translation, the word land appears 136 times.
2.In Yusuf Ali's translation, it appears 108 times. 3.In Muhammad H. Shakir's translation, it appears 124 times. 4 .In Muhammad Pickthall's translation, it appears 125 times.
5.The reason that the total count of land word is not same when you search for it Arabic “Ared” or in english as “Land” because its the same word some time is used as “EARTH” ,and some time as “LAND” but both are one word in Arabic, and translators use either word in their translation.
6.The word earth as example appear 423 time(s) in Yusuf Ali translation.
Soow did Mr. Harun come up with the number 13? Click here
According to Muslims, they’ve counted the word 13 times only! If we search in Arabic the word “ land” (ضرأأ ), which is the correct way to search, not using translations, it will give the best accurate number to appear 461 times in 440 verses as shown in the following image:
The image above is from the Saudi government’s website; search r
esults for the word “land” in Arabic.
What about the word “sea” its pronounced as “ Ba'her”
According to the Muslim claim
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If we search for the word “land sea” in in English:
1) In Yusuf Ali’s translation, the word “sea” appears 27 times in 27 verses in the Qur’an. 2) In Muhammad H. Shakir’s translation, the word “sea” appears 38 time but its a wrong translation he 'Shakir” he translated as an example many words as see when its not as we read here:
“Until when he reached the place where the sun set, he found it going down into a black sea, and found by
it a people. We said: O Zulqarnain! either give them a chastisement or do them a benefit. (Qur'an18:86)
as we read in the translation of Yusuf Ali the word sea disappear:
“Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he
found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast
authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."
3) but the truth is there is no word sea in that verse
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Muslims’ claim
38THE STAR SIRIUS
http://www.harunyahya.com/miracles_of_the_Qur’an_p1_05.ph p#9 The star Sirius appears in Surat an-Najm (meaning “star”). The double stars that comprise Sirius approach each other with their axes in a bow-shape once every 49.9 years. This astronomical phenomenon is indicated in the verses Surat an-Najm 9 and 49.
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My answer
I was laughing my head off when I read this! This is the answer for this joke: 1. The Qur’an never called that star Sirius. It's called Al Sh’ara.
2. If we assume that it's the same one, what does this verse “He was two bow-lengths away or even closer” have to do with it? Does it mean that the star was a few feet away from Muhammad? Or “The stars in Sirius system follow a course toward one another in the shape of a bow.”
3. The Qur’an is calling the star a He?
4. The star, Sirius, came to earth?!
5. Sirius was a few feet away from Muhammad and neither he nor the earth was burned or destroyed?! 6. This is amazing! If this star was to get close to the earth, it would be swallowed up by that huge star. Just note that there is Sirius A and B: Sirius A has a mass of around 2.1 times than that of the sun.