Qur'an And Science in Depth_This book go in deep study about the Qur'an and Science investigating the truthful of facts or claims.
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Qur’an 18:10-12
10 When the young men of the cave said, Lord, give us mercy from Thee, and furnish us with your guidelines,
11we covered their ears, and we made them sleep for long and many years
12 Then We resurrected them, to examine which of the two parties were best at calculating of how many years they were asleep.
First, Qur’an 18:10 talks about the youth or the young people. Supposedly, Allah made them fall asleep for a number of years. It is mentioned that they slept for 300 years.
1. Who is doing the counting and had knowledge about the youths, when the youths told no one where they went? 2. Who are the two parties if everyone who lived at their time was dead by the time they woke up?
3. The verse says, “we raised them.” ( Resurrection. This
word can be used for raising the dead but doesn’t the verse say they were asleep?
4. On top of all this, who are these young men and what can we learn from the story? Nothing! It’s just foolish talk! Qur’an 18:22
“They said, three and their dog the fourth, and sixth would say five and their dog, they say, seven and their dog Say My Lord knows best what to teach them a little but there is no doubt and he knew of their real number.” (Huh?!)
5. The drama here is that there’s a fight over how many there are. The answer from Allah is: “Only Allah knows”. Huh? Why don’t you tell us, Allah? What is even the point to all of this? Maybe it’s because that someone has nothing to say so he creates dumb stories?
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63Allah & Animal Planet
Allah using wrong words again his Arabic not good?, Or its scientific error?
Mistranslation of “Yemshi” and “Dab” as creep Qur’an 24:45
And Allah has created every animal from water, some of them walking on their stomachs and
some of them walking on two legs, and others walk on four. Allah creates what He wills for Allah has power over all things.
This verse is saying that Allah created every animal from water and some of them walk on their bellies. The Arabic language used for this verse is much different then the English translated version. The Arabic version of this verse is as follows.
The word “ Daba” means “everything that walks on the earth by hitting the ground with his feet”lifting and setting down each foot in turn, never having both feet off the ground at once. This could be any living creature that walks on earth, human or animal. “Dab” is derived from the word meaning “He hits the ground with his feet”. Usually “Daba” is mentioned when donkeys are talked about amongst Arabs. It is not normally used to refer to human beings.
T h e E n g l i s h d e f i n i t i o n o f “ D a b a ” a c c o r d i n g t o http://dictionary.sakhr.com/ (Islamic site is an animal or beast. The Arabic definition defines “Daba” as “everything that walks on the ground”. This cannot refer to anything that creeps.
Examples of animals that walk on legs whether living on land or in the sea are: Crabs, centipedes, and ants, to name a few. Aron Yhiya said that “Dab” means every living thing. This is in fact false and intentionally misleading on his part. The question is why don’t Muslims give an accurate translation in here? Why would someone change the meaning of his god’s words?
The answer is: 1. To cover Allah's mistake in saying in very plain Arabic that snakes walk. Arabic is a strong language and in no way would be used for the word yamshi يشمي concerning a snake.
2. This is additional proof of the weak expression in language in the Qur’an showing the opposite of what they say about how strong the Arabic is in this book, when it’s full of Arabic mistakes, which will lead to scientific mistakes.
I am not yet done with this verse. There are other mistakes following in this next verse.
64How many legs creators has?
Qur’an 24:45
And Allah has created every animal from water, some of them walking on their stomachs and some of them walking on two legs, and others walk on four, Allah creates what He wills for Allah has power over all things.
We already spoke about animals walking on their bellies but what about the 3 kinds of walking that Allah said: 1. walk on belly;
2.with two legs; and
3.with four legs.
Is that really true that there are 3 kinds of animals or creatures and the way they walk? Then what about:
1. Centipedes have between 15 or 17 pairs of legs (30 or 34 legs) 2. Pill bugs (7 pairs of walking legs) = 14 legs
3. Crabs have 10 legs
4. Spiders have 8 legs
5. Insects have 6 legs
6. Starfishes have 5 legs
By: Trevor Stokes, LiveScience Contributor
Published: 11/14/2012 09:44 AM EST on LiveScience The world's leggiest creature on record is even more bizarre than its 750 wiggling limbs attest, according to new research.
It’s very clear how wrong Allah is about the number of legs that are used by those who walk over the earth.
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65The Beasts The Ring & The Stick
Since Muslims like to explain to us the science written in their book, then let us take a look at this story and see if the Qur’an is a valid scientific book that provides facts or if it’s a fiction book.
“The Lord of The Ring”
That is not a name of a fiction movie that is from the Quran!
Qur’an 38:34 And We did test Solomon: We placed on his throne a (his dead body), but he did turn to Us in true loyalty.
If we go to the book of Ibn Kathir and observe the Muslims’ English translation, the meaning will be different from the original Arabic text. Below, is my English translation of the original Arabic text. That being said, the Muslims’ English translation is nothing more than a fabrication.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir, print year 2002, vol. 7, p. 68 to 71. Reported by Ibn Abbas, may Allah bless him, he said, "And we did taste Solomon: We placed on his throne (his dead body), but he did turn to us in true loyalty." Solomon wanted to go to the bathroom so he gave his ring to his wife Al Jaradah, and she was one of the most beloved wives of his, then Satan came to her in the image of Solomon and said to her: "give me my ring" so she gave it to him, so he wore the ring, therefore, he became in control and in charge of mankind and jinns, then prophet Solomon came out of the bathroom and he asked his wife to give him back his ring, she said: "I gave it to Solomon" then he said: "I am Solomon!" She said: "you're a liar, you are not Solomon".
Afterwards, each time Solomon went out he said “I am Solomon” and all the people said to him: “you are not Solomon, you're a liar”.
At this point, even kids were throwing rocks and stones at him on the streets.
And then Solomon noticed that this is something that happened from Allah, the high the magnificent.
Then Satan became the ruler of mankind, until Allah wanted Solomon to go back as the King of his kingdom, so Allah put in the heart of the people the rejection of the Satan [the false Solomon], so that people did send a group to question the wives of Solomon, and they asked them(the wives)if there is anything Solomon behave upsetting you?
They said: “yes, he is having intercourse with us while we have our menstruation and he never did this to us before.
Therefore, Satan noticed that people realized that he wasn’t the real Solomon, so they wrote a paper that has magic written on it, and they buried the paper under the throne of Solomon, and it activated the magic and it read the magic to the people. Therefore, Solomon (the false one) started acting as an infidel. (Page 69) And by the act of magic Solomon overcame the people, therefore, the people announced him as an infidel and they kept doing this until Satan [the false Solomon] sent his ring to be thrown in the sea, then the fish swallowed the ring.
And the real Solomon used to work [after he lost his kingdom ship authority] as a Porter and he was paid for that, then a man came to him and said: “how much do you charge me for carrying this fish load?”
Solomon said: “I will take one of these fi
shes”. The man agreed, when the arrived to the door of the house of that man he gave Solomon the fish which had the ring inside it, as wages as they agreed.
So Solomon took the fish and opened its stomach and found the ring, so when he wore the ring the mankind and jinns became under his command and control(again), and he became again a king as the old days, therefore, Satan ran away to an island far in the sea so Solomon sent asking for him to come.
And Satan was a giant jinn, so they could not get him until one day they came to him and found him asleep, so they jumped on him and poured on him lead, if you try to move in the house the lead move with him.
Then Ibn Abbas continued saying: so they tied him up and took him to Solomon.
Therefore, Solomon ordered them to make a bed for him made from marble and sculpture of room inside it and they jailed Satan inside that marble room then they sealed the door with cooper and threw it in the deep sea, and this is what Allah meant in the verse “And We did taste Solomon: We placed on his throne a (his dead body), but he did turn to Us in true loyalty. (Qur’an 38:34)
The Arabic Text of Ibn kathir for Qur’an 38:34
To read the Arabic text from the book of Ibn Kathir click here.
Or click here Same story can be found of the book of Fateh AlQadir of Al-Riwaiah & Driah V1 p1265/1267 And not strange for me, that I couldn't find this story in Ibn Kathir english translation, because the translator he do not like to read these stories ever.
Let us analyze this story:
1. Who gave solomon his ring?
2. Its magical ring?
3. Satan took the shape of Solomon, came to his wife and told her to give him the ring, and she did. The real Solomon then went to her asking for his ring, and she said: “you are not Solomon”. The question I have in mind is how can Satan clone Solomon ? He is Allah who cloned Jesus before as in Qur'an 4:157.?
4. It’s very clear that Solomon couldn’t enter the bathroom with his ring on his finger.
A) Why He can't?
B) The ring will get wet?
C) His ring is electronic?
D) His Ring is holy,can't be taken to bathroom?
5. He knew that his authority was in this ring. So how then did he trust, even his wife, to hold the kingdom’s authority in her hands as anyone who wears this ring will become the King?
6. Since Satan wore the ring, it’s only logical that he didn’t need to take the image of Solomon, as the power is held in the ring, not in someone’s image. The story says that whoever wears the ring takes control of mankind and Jinns.
7. This leads us to another lie in the story, which all of us understand to be a fairytale story. As long as the control comes by the power of this ring, how come Satan could not control the people who later on found out he was “clone” Solomon and start doing action by placing magic under his throne and later even forced him to throw the ring into the sea.
8. And how foolish was this Satan when he knew that all the powers were held in this ring but still, he threw it out the sea.
9. Solomon was able to get his kingdom from the fish who swallowed the ring. Now, when this fish swallowed the ring, why did it not become ruler of mankind and jinns?
10. How come Allah did not give those kind of rings to any one else and especially to Muhammad is the out of them?
11. This is a futile ring and its maker is not better as he made it in a way that anyone who wore it had control over the world.
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Qur’an never said that the earth was fully covered with water?
The Flood of the Bible
Some Muslims claim that the flood did not cover the entire earth, they claim its scientifically false. But yet its same ben thought in their own book but as always the Muslims are the last one to read what is even written in their own book.
Today we hear how scientist warn about “Global Warming” and they claim it will cause a global flooding to cover the earth. So it can happened now but it can not happened before?
Let us now show the Muslims what our book say & refute them about their claim, regarding global flood is missioned only in the bible-scripture, not in the Qur'an, which mean the flood never cover all the earth according to the Qur'an.
in Genesis 7:18-19 says the opposite: "And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters. And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered."
This is evidence of the whole earth being covered with water. Even Genesis gives clear language about the earth’s complete coverage of water.
Genesis 7:19-20 - KJV
“And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. Fifteen cubits upward (milemaelah) did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered."
To make the point short and clear, the Bible says clearly that the earth was totally covered by water. Muslims go on to ask what was left over from the flood. All over the earth there are signs of the effects of the flood, even on mountains. Science shows that the whole earth faced extreme conditions at one time. Even their god Allah supports the fact that there was indeed a flood.
Qur’an 11:42
And the boat was Floating over amid waves like mountains, and called Noah and his son who was in isolation, my son ride with us, not with the infidels!
Qur’an 11:43
He said, (Noah's son) I will go and ride to the high mountains. (Noah answered) He said, no protection today from Allah except who Allah has mercy upon, and the wave parted them and he was from those who were drowned.
In here I will show how false the Muslims’ claim is when they say the Qur’an never said that the earth was covered in water. By the way, in these verses I am not proving a mistake in the Qur’an, but a lie and false statements made by Muslims when saying that what the Bible states about the earth being covered in water is a mistake while even modern science agrees with the Bible. If you read with me these verses you will see that the waves were like mountains and were so high! Was Allah exaggerating or was it real?
If Allah exaggerated, it means he lied. If we read the verse after, we’ll see that the son of Noah went to the top of the mountains and the Qur’an states with no doubt that he was with those who drowned. This means that the flood must have covered the top of the mountains. That makes the Qur’an saying the exact same thing as the Bible. The fact is that the Bible says water was fifteen cubits upward. When Muslims make false claims, I sometimes wonder if they even read their own book!
Qur’an 11:42
And the boat was floating over amid waves like mountains, and called Noah and his son, who was in isolation, my son ride with us, not with the infidels!
Let us see what Ibn Kathir’s interpretation says about this verse.
And Allah saying, "They are making them in waves like mountains" any ship moving with them on the face of the water that has been applied to all the earth until washed ashore on the top of the mountains rose by fifteen cubits, and some said, it was eighty miles on top of the mountains.
They lie even when they copy the exact same thing from the Bible! To read the story from Muslims English site click her ***
66The Flat Earth
Qur’an 51:48
And the earth, We spread it we made it as a carpet, what excellent spreaders we are!
“And the earth, We stretched it out like a bed, and We made it flat. What extraordinary spreaders then. We are.”
Maybe someone will say that it’s really not clear that the earth is flat in this verse. Then let us read more proof.
Qur’an 79:30
And after that He spread out the earth and made it flat; As we know, all these are Islamic translations. The fact is that the word in Arabic for “dahaaha” اهاحد means flat. This is why Tafsir Al-Jalalayn used the word flat as you will see:
In addition to then after t
hat He stretched out the earth: He made it flat, on behalf of Allah had created the earth before the heaven, but without having been spread out yet;
I’ve heard many opinions from Muslims in regards to the word dahaaha. Some say it means to be an ostrich egg, which is ridiculous and a big lie! This is from the book of Al Tabari. He explains how the word dahaaha is used when relating to that bird:
He said, it says the ostrich nest ( Adaha means it’s flat) for it’s flat and after that he is quoting a poet to prove his point. What the Muslims did was make the word about the egg, when it’s about the flat nest of an ostrich, but in their false debate they say Allah said, the earth is the same as an ostrich egg. The fact is, it’s about the nest, because it’s flat. You can see the reference in the government of Jordan website. Copy the text into the Google translator.
Read it from the King of Jordan Islamic site
(He Made it Flat)
Maybe some still don’t accept all of this. Let’s read more verses from the Qur’an. Qur’an 15:19
And the earth We have spread out (like a Rug, and placed on it firm mountains, and caused vegetation to grow with balance.
Tafsir Al-Jalalayn
{ ٍنوُزْوّمٍءْيَشِلُك نِم اَهيِف اَنْتَبْنَأَو َيِساَوَر اَهيِف اَنْيَقْلَأَو اَهاَنْدَدَم َضْرَلٱَو } Plus the earth We have stretched it out, spread it flat, and threw on it firm mountains, to fix the earth from moving, and we made everything grow in balance.
Qur’an 50:7 In addition to the earth, We have stretched it out, and threw on it firm mountains, and established on it pairs of every kind to grow on it.
ريسفت Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs {ٍجيِهَبٍجْوَزِلُك نِم اَهيِف اَنْتَبنَأَو َيِساَوَر اَهيِف اَنْيَقْلَأَو اَهاَنْدَدَم َضْرَلٱَو } In addition to the earth had We spread out over water, and threw firm mountains so the earth does not move.