by Nancy Lieder
of yore, the reality was not fought. It was a time of acceptance, and grief. So prepare those who will die for death, if
it’s inevitable or appears to be inevitable. Life will be hard enough for those who are genetically blessed, who are in
good health, who are in a safe area where a reasonable food supply can be grown. The times will be terribly harsh.
People will lose their teeth, they will have broken bones that are poorly set, and it will not be a time when life is a joy
and carefree. It’s a time for spiritual growth, a transitional time. Look upon it in that manner, as then you can embrace
some of the good aspects of the times, and not just the horrors.
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ZetaTalk: Death Wish
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ZetaTalk: Death Wish
Note: written Nov 15, 1995.
Florida and California are both at risk to heavy tidal waves during the coming pole shift, and as suffocation is a
painless and swift departure many oldsters or transients wishing not to linger during troubled times have migrated
there. These decisions are not conscious, however, and if challenged would be denied. Suicide, for those in good health
who have concern for others, should never be considered, though this is of course a personal decision. The reason we
advise to consider otherwise is that others will need you. You are aware of what is coming, and so many will be taken unawares.
There are children who will be left orphaned, without protection, vulnerable to the worst nightmares. There are those
who will wish to stay alive for the safe of their dependents, children or others in poor health or needing them, who will
need advice. What to eat? Where to go? How to distill the water to avoid lead poisoning? Where to get Vitamin C?
And what to expect over the next few months? Should they move to the hills or remain along the rivers where fish
abound? Should they rebuild a shelter or plan a houseboat to accommodate the rising water? Should they join this
group or that, or take to the road? What country or direction is the best direction, if moving is the obvious choice?
How long will this last? Will help arrive to rescue them? All these questions are those you can help them with.
So before considering an easy way out for your self, consider how much you can relieve the pain of others, who will
suffer without your help!
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ZetaTalk: Bill Gates
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ZetaTalk: Bill Gates
Note: written Sep 15, 1996. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
Speculation on Bill Gates runs rampant, as he is an inordinately successful man. Though naturally endowed with
outstanding intelligence and coming from a family with financial resources and connections, he has skyrocketed to
heights unusual even for those with these advantages. Becoming the richest man in the world in the years leading into
the millennium, he also has achieved a power position as the leader of Microsoft, the dominant personal computer
software. Speculation runs the gamut - that he is the AntiChrist, that he is going to be president or even rule the world,
that he is a savior of some kind. None of this is true, but the situation does warrant watching for several reasons.
Computers will become an increasingly important factor in linking the world into a communications network.
Today, satellites are central to this linking, replacing an expensive lattice of lines spread over land and along sea
beds. But as the 12th Planet approaches and magnetic confusion increases, these satellites will begin to mis-
perform. Satellites use magnets for alignment of their internal mechanisms, and if pointing in wrong directions,
communications are halted. What good is a message intended for the Earth's surface when it is sent into outer
space? A lattice of computer controlled communication dishes along the surface of the Earth and bounced along
by ships positioned in the oceans will replace today's overweening reliance on satellites.
Internet access is moving into the average home, with the advent of new technology that allows the TV to act as
a web browser. Thus, when recovering from a disaster such as the coming pole shift, it is conceivable that this
route will be used by the government, should it survive, to address the nation. Certainly those parts of the
government planning to survive are looking to such a solution. Technology that is dominant in the average
household could then with the addition of a single new product link communities across a nation. Thus members
in the government have reason to desire dominance in the personal computer arena, and to pave the way for this
to occur.
Where the above points sound like solutions, if in the wrong hands they can become a tool for domination and control.
Any network should have more than one support system, and this is the point to watch and guard against. What is the
backup should the software from Microsoft fail?
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ZetaTalk: The Internet
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ZetaTalk: The Internet
Note: written Feb 15, 1997.
The ability of humans to communicate over distances has moved, over the past century, from the pace of a single
human's ability to travel or deliver mail to instant communication all over the world with the press of a key - the
Internet. That this upsurge has occurred in the century leading up to the millennium, with its cataclysms, is not an
accident. Mankind has been assisted at certain points with technological breakthroughs, so that a swift up-tick would
occur at this point. The Transformation, which involves integrating those humans strongly in the Service-to-Others
with aliens operating in that orientation, will mean bringing those humans into highly technological Zetan and hybrid
cultures. To avoid severe culture shock, the technological level humans are familiar with has been raised. Where this
up-tick in technology is evident on many fronts, in communications it is most evident in the growth of the Internet.
Moving into the Transformation, the Internet will continue to grow and permeate many aspects of daily life. Following
the pole shift, many Service-to-Other groups will find they are still in communication with each other, trading helpful
hints and passing along news. Technology will not die among these groups, as the education or know-how of one can
be passed along, using the Internet as a school or training vehicle. Thus, the Internet will continue to help those
surviving humans operating in the Service-to-Other orientation to acclimate to the life style of the 4th Density Service-
to-Other aliens they will soon be encountering. It will make for a smooth transition, as they will in many cases
encounter their new neighbors via the Internet before meeting them face to face, and find when this occurs that they
are meeting an old friend!
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ZetaTalk: Melting Pot
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ZetaTalk: Melting Pot
Note: written May 15, 1997.
Early on after its discovery as a large land mass relatively un-populated and rich in resources, the Americas became
the target of hungry immigrants. Protected from discovery earlier by the vast oceans on either side, the Americas had
remained the land of the American Indian with only an occasional lost straggler arriving by boat from other lands.
Unlike the acquisitive values forming the base of European society, the American Indian did not plunder the land and
its resources, but lived in great harmony with nature and considered themselves the guests of nature rather than the
owners of nature. Thus, to the Europeans, the Americas looked like land and resources for the taking. The rush was on,
and has not stopped, and the general notion of immigrating to America, to the land of opportunity, has spread around
the world so that all countries have this impression of the Americas - go there and get rich!
Immigrants are characterized primarily by their ability to initiate action, to be activists rather than pacifists. In their
native country, all experience food shortages or repression, but not all pick up and leave home, friends, family, and
familiarity! During the early years when the great melting pot was forming, many immigrants could anticipate never
seeing family and friends again, or even hearing from them by the rare letter that made the distance without being lost
or destroyed. Thus the early immigrants were courageous as well as activists, and were capable of operating
independently. America is the nation that involves itself in other nation’s affairs because of the genetic makeup of its immigrants. Because of the initial rush toward riches, the attitude of most Americans is that nothing is impossible but
only requires action.
Differences, rather than conformity, are the rule in America, due to the vast mixture of races and cultures in American
cities. Most cultural mixing can result in explosive confrontations, synergy of ideas, or both. In the case of Arabs and
Israelis, explosive confrontations are the result. In the case of cultural and racial mixing in America - both results have occurred. America is the land of violence, statistically holding some of the highest rates in violent crimes. America
holds its lead as the nation where the vast majority of patents issue from in great part because of the attitude of its
immigrants, who are by their genetic nature exploratory and persistent, but also because the cultural mix encourages
tolerance of new ideas! Thus the great melting pot has fostered a result few anticipated, a synergy that is by its nature a
leader in ideas and a champion for democratic rule. For mankind, the melting pot has proved to be a success.
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ZetaTalk: Imaging
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ZetaTalk: Imaging
Note: written during the Feb 16, 2002 IRC session. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
The establishment has much discussed this moment, when there will be serious attention given to the object, moving,
in the skies. At the turn of the millennium, it was thought that NASA and their buddy system would call it a nova.
However, with the attention given to the Zeta coordinates, they understood that motion in this object would be under
too much scrutiny. Where explanations that the common man might buy will be floated out, such as the recent
pronouncement about CO2 causing slowing rotation, the establishment knows that the educated man won't buy into
this. Even the little guy, perhaps without wealth but with a brain, can sort though what he observes and hears. To
confirm that the inbound object is a Brown Dwarf, moving at the rate it is, would raise questions as to its distance.
This in conjunction with the closeness to our coordinates would likewise confirm, officially, ZetaTalk. They would
prefer to hide, and ferry the anxious to Nancy and Troubled Times.
The governments in the know about what is coming, or those suspecting based on rumor in the highest circles, have
only a few options. They could come clean, admit a cover-up, and then run and hide to save themselves. This is
unlikely to happen, until perhaps the last week, as these individuals enjoy power and privilege, and are loathe to give it up. They could employ strong arm tactics, invoke martial law, and refuse and eliminate any questions about earth
changes. This requires a military and citizenry well in agreement with these means, which does not exist in either the
US, Canada, or Europe. Even China found the Internet rebutting their lines, re Tianaman Square. The uproar, even
after 911, over loss of individual rights, showed the US that their citizenry were not in agreement. Thus, they have
evolved a third tactic, which it to allow discussion, but ignore it. In other words, no comment.
In Europe, there is likely to be more open discussion of the matter, as in the UK the Planet X issue re-emerged
recently. Britain is also resentful of the US, and the European Community resentful of both. Thus, each country is
likely to respond individually, depending on the public and administrators. Where the country might fare well, there
may be open forums on plans as to what to do, in case. In countries where there will be devastation, such as in India,
no discussion will occur. In countries where there is already suppression of news and discussion, such as Saudi Arabia,
there will be continued suppression. In Scandinavia, which will fare well, there may be open government plans to
assist their populace when the time comes. Thus, as with people, each government or country might take a unique tack,
an unexpected tack, and our predictions wrong or right, depending. These matters are in the hands of man, who has
free choice, and not our hands.
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ZetaTalk: Star Charts
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ZetaTalk: Star Charts
Following the posting of an infrared image taken on Jan 5, 2002, the establishment was uneasy but felt the presence of
an existing star in the near vicinity would suffice to explain, in the main, to the man on the street, the image. Those
following the debate closely, which several thousand are, were not so confused, however, but indeed recognized, in
spite of the image makers later protests, that two objects were present in the new image, not on the star charts. In that once is an aberration, in science, but twice is a pattern, the lights went off when the French team came through again
with an image taken on Jan 19, 2002. This had the astonishing association of being:
1. a legitimate image, taken by a student given access to the equipment as a part of a training routine, and
2. having the stamp of the observatory, and
3. accompanied by an ESO star chart to be used as comparison.
They were horrified. All attempts to suppress such an occurrence had slipped through their fingers, as they had not
gone down to the level of trainers and students in their covert warnings to astronomers. The cat was well out of the bag by the time the establishment became aware. Thus, they huddled, no comment being the mode, as Noted by Steve
Havas who found it odd that David Tholen of the Hawaii complex was absent on the sci.astro Usenet for days after this
announcement. The options were discussed. Should they call it a new object, perhaps a nova, and deal with the motion
according to our coordinates later? Should they ignore it, and have their lack of interest rouse curiosity? Should they
state that this is an existing object, the excuse used on Jan 5, 2002, always the most comfortable answer.
They chose the latter, and proceeded to i
nsert an object in the star charts that would be downloaded by interested
parties in the public, so that the public, comparing, would find the new object identified in France an old object, and dismiss the image. They proceeded, but Steve Havas is a gifted contactee whom we have great confidence in, and thus
he was guided as to where to look, and when. His early post that he was suspicious when Tholen did not post a
comment to Nancy's announcement shows he was aware that activities behind the scenes were in process. Caught in
the Act! is his statement to sci.astro, and this it was. By pointing to what was a botched doctoring job, in time for many throughout the world to follow in his footsteps and do their own checking, he produced a catch-22 for the
establishment. Should they proceed to fix their botches, hurriedly done by inexperienced image fixing disinfo artists,
they had to worry about astronomers worldwide comparing the new star charts to those they had in their possession
already.
Thus, the decision was made to withdraw the botched and doctored images, leaving Steve looking like a liar. This
supposition was posted today, Mar 2, 2002, on sci.astro, by Nancy, so that those astronomers around the world, who
number in the hundreds, who have done their own comparisons and been horrified, will be alerted to the plan. Thus,
though Steve may come under some heat, he should and we are confident will, understand that many are out there have
proof now of the cover-up, and the search for Planet X has now intensified a thousand fold. For each astronomer
looking, or thinking, there will for every astronomer finding the images being doctored, the bastion of integrity the star
charts are supposed to be being dooctored, there will be dozens, each, that will be talked to privately in hushed tones
about this matter. A wildfire has been lit, and cannot be damped. And Steve cannot be touched else suspicions will go
wild.
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