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and a reddish object is visible in the daytime sky. The fact that this appears, is where, and when and what we said it would be, will consume their consciousness.
Those who have prepared, have a remote spot to go where clean water and some food from farmlands or
wilderness might be gotten, will still be consumed with regret, grief, indecision as to just when to move to safety
and cut ties with the old life.
Those who have not prepared, have been simply watching and waiting for certain signs or a hoped for failure of
these signs to manifest, indicating a mistake on Nancy's part or a fraud, will go into stunned shock. All that they
have delayed, all the many parts they have failed to put into place, will come to haunt them. They will, in most
cases, be hysterical, rushing about, pleading with others, and making mistakes in their haste.
Those who have not considered will be learning, perhaps for the first time, that this reddish object in the skies
was predicted, by ZetaTalk, and will be reading and absorbing the impact to their lives, with scarcely another
though besides what this will mean to their lives.
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ZetaTalk: Debate
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ZetaTalk: Debate
Note: written during the Jan 25, 2003 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
One of the surest ways for parents to get their children to assume responsibility, get involved, is not to be ever-present or overactive. A bit of benign neglect allows a leadership vacuum, and lo, in steps a child who is tired of waiting,
taking up the task! This does more than simply get another to do a task, as once a child starts assuming responsibility, they start to enjoy it, take pride in the outcome, and this action continues. Natural leaders emerge during distressing
times when no leadership seems forthcoming. These leaders may in fact be better than the official leaders, but not wanting to be disruptive, hold back and take support roles instead of assuming leadership. In a void, this social
politeness is not necessary, and a new leader is born! This is all to say that a parent, or leader, wanting more
involvement from the community, can arrange this best by not being utterly involved, answering every question, doing every task, but by being absent.
Now, given the imaging ongoing during the Fall of 2002 and into the early weeks of 2003, how does this apply? The
Sighting TEAM is small, consisting of Steve, Pierre, JWilliam and Naji, in that order joining the TEAM. Nancy
determines what will go on her web site, but has been wanting, and expressing the hope, that many web sites would emerge and many sources of images would emerge, for some months. She is, frankly, tired of the time required on her
part, and the increasing demands for interviews are only going to increase, which should, in her view, be her primary
role. JWilliam and Pierre have their own web sites, often in opposition to what other TEAM members state, or in
opposition to what Nancy and ourselves state, and this has never been a problem.
And why not? From the start of the Fall 2002 viewing season, and even prior to that if one reads the pages in the
Sighting TEAM section, there has been debate and disagreement. This has never been suppressed, despite the hope of
the debunking crowd that the ZetaCult or ZetaDrone title would stick. We, the Zetas, have never asked for more than
that man be informed, and think, and look, and come to their own individual conclusions. This has been stated from day one of ZetaTalk, and is immersed in the body of ZetaTalk, throughout. At the start of the Fall 2002 viewing
season, it was the mode, established by Nancy who is of a like mind with us, to allow the public to see the debate
among the TEAM members. We thus had Jan's candidate, Charles candidate, etc. and at the end of several days of
debate, our opinion. We held off on this opinion to encourage debate, to collect this debate, and it was not only the final Zeta statement that went onto the web, but the debate.
Why? Because this is exactly the type of debate that should be on sci.astro, not endless insults that ZetaTalk is a Nazi or CIA or NASA front, or whatever, insults and adolescent quips that the public long since tired of to the extent that
they no longer read sci.astro directly but go to the ZetaTalk website for a summary of what is worth reading! This was, of course, the reason for the press early last summer to have Nancy put all posting for a thread on her web site, an
obvious organized campaign as the email Nancy received on this matter were form letters, filled in! This is an
immensely important issue, none more important, to mankind at this time. This is in the skies at this time, available to amateurs, and should be the main topic on the sci.astro and related Usenets, not in the grip of paid debunkers, who seem to number only a dozen or so! Where is the public in all of this! Where is the debate! This is what we are trying
to encourage, and if our word on just which spot is it is always quickly forthcoming, then debate is stifled!
Thus, we have increasingly held back, especially since it is evident that the White Persona is on path with the
coordinates, and the Red Persona is subject to bending toward whatever side the core of the Earth is, at the time. Those in the southern hemisphere can figure this out, for them, etc. Likewise, we have allowed Nancy to look foolish, the latest session last Sunday when she shared her bumbling on asteroids with the public, shamelessly. The TEAM,
politely, informed her she was wrong, and she will post this to the web site during her day off tomorrow. This is not
the first time we allowed, encouraged, Nancy to stumble, to show the process, to be egoless in this manner, as this
encourages others to do likewise! The teacher who is perfect, insists they are perfect and cannot make a mistake,
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creates a suppression in the classroom where students are afraid to raise their hand. The teacher who is tolerant of their
own mistakes, the process of exploration, finds the classroom buzzing! Thus, we expect, and hope, that if man is
uncertain, and Nancy is imperfect, that debate will ensue, which it should!
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ZetaTalk: Disclosure
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ZetaTalk: Disclosure
written October 29, 2009
There is the rumor that Obama will give a speech to the world population on all TV channels on Nov 27.
Anything true in this rumor? What will he speak about?
Disclosure has been gradual, country by We predicted at the start of ZetaTalk that
country, the most recent reported to be
sightings would be on the increase, and
Sweden. This trend will continue. We
they have increased. The major media is
have explained that any mass landing, or now reporting these incidences, allowing
well publicized contact between aliens
the public to see the videos and photos
and humans, will not occur. This is due
and hear the full reports of the witnesses,
to the rule that the Awakening must be
where formerly this was not done. That
gradual, and not induce extreme anxiety
there is a weak protest from some
in the populace. Contactees are on the
government agency, some flimsy excuse
increase, and mass sightings likewise on of what it might be, should be ignored.
the increase. Periodically there are
The public is not f
ooled. Classified
predictions about some sort of coming
documents will never be released, unless
out where aliens will stride in front of TV discovered blowing in the wind after the
cameras and all will be known. This is
pole shift. But you don't need these to be
not how it will happen.
released to know the truth.
ZetaTalk Prediction 5/9/2009
ZetaTalk Prediction 1/26/2008
The alien presence has been denied for
It is not the difficulty in explaining the
decades, since the time of Roswell, and
alien presence that is holding back full
aggressively so. The individuals who
disclosure. It is fear among the elite that
perpetrated this cover-up are still in the
they will fall from grace, from their lofty
main alive, and do not want egg on their perch. Certainly, an admission that
faces. What would they say to the public, intelligent life exists elsewhere would not
that the common man could not take the
require a full discussion about the
information without going insane or into pending passage of Planet X and its
a panic? This is laughable in view of the potential destruction. But UFOs have
large number of mass sightings which
been called "swamp gas" and the like for
have only resulted in curiosity and
decades with a softening of the stance of
increased desire for contact. To save
most governments only coming about
face, these individuals demand that the
lately because mass sightings have
cover-up continue.
become so common that the cover-up is
ZetaTalk Prediction 5/2/2009
ridiculed by their public.
ZetaTalk Analysis 5/24/2008
As one country after another opened their UFO files, one stood apart - the United States, the country with the most
official information on the existence of the alien presence. During the life of MJ12 the US had extensive contact with
aliens, and examined their ships. The US has relics from that era, including mummified alien bodies. But where the
US has the most to present to the world, has proof positive, they are the also the most reluctant. We have stated, when repeatedly asked about this issue in the past, that such disclosure would deeply embarrass those officials who were at
the forefront of denial over the decades. In that the highly popular and well known ZetaTalk website holds proof of a
kind in the ZetaTalk Accuracy record, there is an additional fear. If the alien presence is acknowledged, then is the
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presence of Planet X and the reality of a pending pole shift also being acknowledged?
Note in the February 14, 2008 report by a French participant of a UN meeting on disclosure, that the Earth changes
were mentioned. It is not just the reaction of the public to the reality of alien visitors that the establishment fears. The
populace is already aware of this from their frequent sightings of UFOs. It is "testimonies of individuals claiming to
have first hand knowledge about UFO's, extraterrestrial life, and future global events" that is to be feared, and these
individuals debunked as "charlatans". What else but the pending pole shift would cause the anticipated "dramatic
economic impact that could lead to recessions in some countries". Mass UFO sightings are already occurring, without
economic impact. Clearly, they fear ZetaTalk, with its international fame and prediction accuracy track record,
disseminated worldwide for over a decade. The Horizon Project boasted NASA and US contractors as members,
purporting the Earth will meet devastation when it aligns with the galactic center. Project Camelot claims to host whistleblowers, those wanting the truth out about the alien presence, hosting Sergeant Major Robert Dean discussing
the coming of Nibiru and his first hand knowledge of UFOs. Are these individual to be treated as "charlatans"?
Will disclosure occur as predicted by various suedo-scientific personalities such as David Wilcock or Richard
Hoagland? Since these individuals earn their living by claiming special insights into the alien presence, they wish to be
on the media bandwagon should disclosure actually become a media event. We are here to inform them that such an
event, predicted to include a White House announcement with an introduction of actual live aliens, will never occur,
and certainly including Wilcock or Hoagland as parties has never been contemplated by the establishment. We have
predicted that it is increasing mass sightings, increasing sightings of alien bodies, that will drive public awareness of
the alien presence. Official disclosure by the US government is highly unlikely to occur, though they may back off
some of their debunking campaigns. ZetaTalk accuracy has only begun to be demonstrated, and this trend will drive
our words into increasing media attention. This is a prediction we have made from the start.
Official Disclosure of Extraterrestrial Life is Imminent
October 21, 2009
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m10d21-Official-disclosure-of-
extraterrestrial-life-is-imminent
The impending disclosure announcement follows upon the secret implementation of a year long
openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life. Over the period February 12-14, 2008, the
United Nations held closed doors discussions where approximately 30 nations secretly agreed on a
new openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life in 2009. The openness policy was
implemented but never publicly announced due to threats against UN diplomats not to disclose
details of the secret agreement. The timing would most likely coincide sometime soon after his
Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech on December 10, 2009 in Oslo, Norway. David Wilcock, a
prominent researcher of emerging scientific paradigms claimed in a Coast to Coast AM radio
interview that "a 2-hour international TV special has already been booked that will introduce an
alien species, similar to humans, to the world." NASA and space researcher, Richard Hoagland
concluded, also on the popular late night Coast to Coast AM radio show, that "LCROSS is part of a
carefully constructed campaign to prepare the populace for imminent disclosure. Which ever of the
above scenarios is used for announcing the existence of extraterrestrial life or technology, President
Obama will figure prominently.
French Expert Publicly Emerges to Confirm Secret United Nations Meeting on UFO's
February 14, 2008
http://exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-67.htm
A French aviation expert has come forward to reveal his participation in a secret meeting held at
the United Nations New York headquarters that discussed the UFO phenomenon from February 12-
14. Lorant revealed that a series of UN meetings were held over a three day period. In the meetings
there was discussion of a confidential report, prepared by the U.S. Air Force and a branch of the
National Guard, concerning the societal impact of UFO sightings. The initial meeting was held on
February 12 and, according to Lorant's report, led to a request by three U.S. Senators for further
discussions. Additional meetings were held immediately after on February 13 and 14. The
implication is that three U.S. Senators attended the secret UN meetings. The meetings were very
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concerned about social upheaval from continued UFO sightings and the testimonies of individuals
claiming to have first hand knowledge about UFO's, extraterrestrial life, and future global events. It
was reported that adverse public reactions to UFO sightings could have a dramatic economic
impact that could lead to recessions in some countries. 2009 was raised as the year when an
important change in official attitudes concerning the UFO phenomenon could be made. The
meetings results suggest that an official change in government policy from 'debunking' to 'openness'
concerning UFO's would lead to official approval to narrowly define study of the UFO
phenomenon. However, those claiming to have first hand experience of extraterrestrial life would be
targeted as charlatans.
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ZetaTalk: Russia
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ZetaTalk: Russia
Note: written during the Jul 6, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
Russian, as the US, has been in the know since the early days of MJ12, being a partner in space, and brought into the
fold long before the end of the Cold War. Being in space, first, with Sputnik, and Mir, they of course saw space ships
and were well aware of the alien presence many decades ago, without doubt. Thus, they were conferred with, and even
though enemies on the ground, in economic circles, and in culture clashes, at the highest levels they conferred. They
could, should they wish to embarrass Bush, reveal much, but in doing so they would open their own cultures and
economies to panic, thus they stay their hands in this regard. They have been watching Planet X, in their observatories,
with their satellites, and as with NASA and the Pope, seeing our predictions re its path and speed of approach
actualizing.
Thus, they have made their plans too, for a bunker government, a carry-on government. It is no secret that the Urals
will remain well above water, and has been a site of intellectual and scientific personnel for some decades. It is no