by Nancy Lieder
Service-to-Other are invariably not that, and would be adoptees loudly proclaiming they are Service-
to-Other while they are trying to insert themselves into communities are likewise suspect.
So what is an anxious human to do? Since the soul lives on, while the human body dies, the spiritual aspects of
survival and life during troubling times is more important than any physical comfort. Look to those around you, for the
sense of peace and acceptance they may have in place of desperation and panic. Look to those you are responsible for,
to see how you can make their transition - to the Aftertime or their next incarnation - done with a sense of teamwork
and caring. Look to a simple existence, with a minimum of comforts, during any transition, rather than demanding a
high tech existence or special attention. These attitudes, and this caring orientation, will ensure you more than any
actions you might otherwise take, in arriving at a place where personal comforts and security will once again be an
everyday assumption. Put aside desperation and casting about for rescue, and think of how you can help others. This is
your ticket to better times!
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ZetaTalk: Twisted Logic
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ZetaTalk: Twisted Logic
Note: written Mar 15, 2002
Self Preservation = Service-to-Others
To those thinking of moving, leaving family behind, and wondering if this is a Service-to-Other decision, this is
a decision that bears on the following: If the family refuses to address the possibility of a shift, in spite of all the
evidence, and the individual finds they would die with those in denial if not leaving them, then the answer is
clear. Leave. If the individual finds they are leaving family that is aware, but unable to move, or children and the
sick, then the issue resolves around whether they are needed to help others in the new camp, or more needed at
home. This puts the issue into saving oneself over caring for others, a common 3rd Density decision issue. This
decision is up to you to deal with. If the individual is taking others, children and others unable to live on their
own, with them, and this is a strong factor in their reason for moving, then the answer is clear. Move. Thus,
where strongly driven by Service-to-Others desires, this should sort out easily, but where a desire to save the
self only, or heavily mixed in this direction, it is a 3rd Density orientation decision of which we cannot be part.
It is your decision.
Service-to-Other = Rug Mat
Our words about Service-to-Other are often interpreted by those looking for rescue as a life line, meaning that
we, the Zetas, or anyone taking our words seriously should give up all and rescue them. This is the same
argument used on those running soup kitchens or administering welfare funding - give us whatever we want, as
you must else you are not doing your duty. Of course, this is a twisted interpretation, as the soup kitchen is
handing out sustenance to those starving, not serving meals at their demand, and the welfare office is on a
budget with rules. So why the loud clamor? These individuals seek to bog ZetaTalk and Troubled Times or
whatever group trying to get the message out boggled in demands and chores, thus ineffective. A second motive
is based on a sense that the current human administration system, the governments of the worlds, are already
puling back and seeking self-protection vs. taking care of the citizenry. They sense the Transformation in effect,
and are trying to line up in the new welfare lines.
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ZetaTalk: Contradictory
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ZetaTalk: Contradictory
Note: written Mar 15, 2000.
Going into the new millennium, the American farmer was not told that the coming crop shortages will be a problem. In
fact, they will be an acute problem. The American farmer is even being told to put much of their acreage to sleep, a
contradiction it would seem given that stores in the US are not high. This contradiction can be explained by opposing
forces, with those in power positions wining the wrestling game. At one side are those who would inform the public,
allowing more families to start gardening and to change their diet or spending practices. Those of good heart want this
approach. They are countered, as they have been all along, by those who fear panic in the public and the disruption this
will cause in their own pampered lives. This faction wants the public blind to what is coming as much as possible. The
employment is kept high by pumping money into the economy, the public told a boom is going on. In fact, this is a
facade, as other indicators are screaming that erosion of true wealth is occurring, but those who want panic dampened
are wining the arguments at this time, and we expect this to occur at least for the rest of this year.
To keep stores in the US grocery shelves, and keep the prices down, shipments to help other countries are being cut
back drastically. This creates a temporary glut, and thus the farmers are told to cut back on their planted acreage.
However, we anticipate that the crop shortages this year will be so severe that this ploy will come back on the
manipulators, and they will find prices rising in spite of all attempts to hold the prices down. The move by the
government to put in price freezes will not happen during 2,000, in all likelihood, as it would mean explaining too
much to the public. We expect ZetaTalk to be allowed to increase its influence, as the coming shortages will be viewed
with alarm, and the message to the little guy to prepare by gardening and learning to grow and eat earthworms will be
viewed as a salve on an open wound.
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ZetaTalk: Little Man
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ZetaTalk: Little Man
Note: written during the March 16, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
Up until the banking system is in a steady slip toward a crash, the facade that money can be provided to bail out
bankrupt countries will be maintained. The banking industry relies so heavily on confidence, as does the Stock
Markets, that even when a slide is well in place they will deny. When the slide is accelerating, they will disappear into
"no comment" and be out of the public eye. The exact time and date of an economic crash is something we are
frequently asked about. This is in the hands of man, in the main, and could be delayed by months past a predicted
point based on newscasts, and the sacrifice of various wealthy individuals willing to dispel some of their fortunes
toward this end. Then there is the issue of erroneous reporting, as today, where crops shortages are simply not
reported, and weather changes and the rising seas swallowing islands in the Pacific are simply not reported. If an
economic crash is well in process, but the news does not report it, then to you, this is not yet occurring.
Thus, unless one has inside information, and knows what signs to look for, the slide will not be evident. Our best
advice to the public, anxious to make best use of their funds, is to not invest in the Stock Market, not hold back from buying solid material items that can help them, such as seeds or camping gear or tools. How can you go wrong in
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arning to garden, or planning to get close to nature? These are in any case good investments, not so much to make
money as to improve your life! Spend time with your children in the woods, learn simply survival techniques like
eating weeds and fishing under primitive circumstances. This is a better vacation, a better use of your time and funds, than sitting on the sofa and counting riches you probably don't have today! Paper money, and stocks, give a false sense
of security, as history tells you. Get real!
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ZetaTalk: Establishment Reaction
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ZetaTalk: Establishment Reaction
Note: written during the July 2001 sci.astro debates. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
Over the past 50 years, during the time that a small group of individuals within the US government and NASA were
aware of our warning of a pending pole shift in 2003, their stance has changed. At first, there was incredulous
disbelief, and the argument that we must be lying to them for all manner of dark reasons. Due in no small part to the
predictable and measureable slowing rate of the Earth, which we predicted at the start of our dialog with this group, we
gained credibility. The sighting of the inbound Planet X by the IRAS team in 1983, at our very coordinates, clinched
this. At this point, this group's reaction turned primarily from discussions on whether it could be so, to be
predominantly what to do about it.
1. The first reaction was to save their own skins. This had been a theme all along, but reached a fever pitch. Going
to Mars to escape the carnage and return when the dust had settled is a highly visible escape plan, as it requires
public funding for the mission, though the sponsors are trawling about among the rich, feverishly. This plan is so
fraught with risk that has never been the main trust for those determined to save their own skins at all costs, and
to hell with the general public. Underground complexes developed during the cold war were more seriously
considered, as they were in existence, secret, well stocked, and under the control of those who were aware of the
inbound Planet X's existence. But in view of the severe earthquakes that will accompany the passage, this escape
plan also carries risk. The caverns could become tombs, burying those seeking shelter there alive.
2. The second reaction was to divert or destroy the inbound Planet X. Nuke it. Push it. Perhaps even move the
Earth out of the way. The public face of this plan is the Star Wars press and movies such as Deep Impact and
Asteroid and Armageddon, wherein NASA et all save the day. If the White House is casual about Global
Warming, supposedly causing all the weather irregularities, they are intense about Star Wars, risking a breach
with other major powers to push this forward. They have no workable plan, nor will any succeed, but they want
the infrastructure in place as an option anyway.
3. A third reaction, given the failure of an viable escape from or diversion of Planet X, is to remain on top during
any survival, to rule as kings in the forthcoming era. This requires that the public consider the government as
leaders, information sources, caretakers, and responsible. If the government is seen as lying to them on many
fronts, the opposite will occur. In that the alien presence is increasingly becoming accepted by the general
public, though mass sightings and open discussions the government and major media have no control over, they
determined they should stop lying so broadly about this issue. In that Planet X is now visible by observatories, as
an object now lacking in the star charts, and will soon be visible to the general public, the cover-up on Planet X
is not only due to fall apart, it will prove to be a reason to distrust the government.
Thus, the public is being treated to an expedited education on matters the elite have been aware of for some time.
Intelligent life exists elsewhere in the Universe. Many lifebearing planets exist, and nearby. Traveling planets such as
Planet X, and smoldering brown dwarfs, are possible. Stay tuned, as more deliberate leaks bring you closer to what the
major powers and elite have known for some time!
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ZetaTalk: Nervous Establishment
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ZetaTalk: Nervous Establishment
Dated March 23, 2000
It is becoming increasingly apparent that blaming the sun or blaming global warming as distractions and
disinformation to confuse the populace as to the changes that the Earth is undergoing is not going to last much longer.
It may be that odd weather can be explained away, or an occasional satellite malfunction can be explained away, but
when it gets 20 times worse for the next 3 years running, exponential increases to some extent, how it this going to be
explained? The government is going to be wrong, and people are going to begin to discount the government.
Therefore, a more honest statement about certain factors is the only thing that is going to keep some governments
holding the confidence of the populace. In shrill backroom arguments, statements are made that unless a government is
more honest about these factors that people are just going to discount the government and listen to it at all, and then
it’s an unpredictable sea of chaos and change.
Those who go into government service and the military are not that dissimilar from those who go into religious
institutions because they want to be in control and want consistency and sameness and absolute security. They fear, to
almost an irrational degree, the chaos and unpredictability that can occur if the public loses confidence and then leaves
the church or loses confidence in the government. This is almost akin to throwing oneself into the nethers and not
knowing what’s to come. At all costs, they deem this a situation that needs to be prevented. Things are at the point
where they feel they need to give the public more straight answers in order to retain the confidence of the populace.
Predictions need to be more well grounded. There needs to be more honesty about what the world is facing. In order to
remain in control in a leadership position, one must lead and not always try to blind those who are to follow.
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ZetaTalk: More Honesty
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ZetaTalk: More Honesty
Dated March 23, 2000
There has been a great deal of wrestling around during the past year in pointing to Orion where Planet X was reputed
to be coming from. The Planet X discussion, in fact, re-emerged from Britain in spite of the discounting that NASA
and JPL have done for more than a decade, for some 15-20 years - “It didn’t exist, was never found, was all a
mistake”. Suddenly astronomers are discussing whether Nibiru or Planet X or such a thing is inbound and might exist.
How was that discussion allowed to emerge? Because it is an alternative explanation for the changes that are occurring
and something that the intelligent and informed public could grip and adjust to and thus not completely stop their
continued support of the government. In the main it is the educated individuals in industrial countries that politicians
rely upon. Where they need the voting support of t
hose who are kept dumb and down on the farm, the educated elite
are the ones who can create almost a counter-coup in the media or though communication sources and create a sway
that is feared. So more honesty can be expected.
Look what has happened over the past year regarding the alien presence. France has come out and stated that it has
determined that the US government has been in contact with aliens and has denied this. The vast proportion of
Americans in polls state that they believe that aliens exist. This is running away. The populace of the world in general
feels that aliens are real and not to be feared and any statements to the opposite are absurd. So the governments of the
world have been banding together on this matter. Leaks have occurred. Semi-truths such as Corso’s Roswell have
come out. More and more the public sees aliens in advertisements and movies such that it has become so commonplace
that the public almost feels they are having them at the dinner table. Likewise with the cataclysmic changes that are
occurring, where the magnetism in the core of the Earth is diminished so that it is almost common knowledge to the
public. Whales and dolphins are beaching themselves and birds that use magnetism are totally confused and even
planes can no longer rely on their compasses. These kinds of geological changes have become evident. Announcements
as to the reason for such changes will be made if only in subtle degrees.
Governments fear riots and coups and having the intelligentsia turn against them. They fear becoming irrelevant. And
therefore they will release information to the degree that they must in order to remain relevant.
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ZetaTalk: Belated Admissions
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ZetaTalk: Belated Admissions
Dated March 23, 2000
The religious institutions are considered a controlling establishment, and as such are very closely allied with many
political establishments around the world, to the extent that many political establishments and churches are wedded