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assist, but will find themselves, clinging to floating material after the flood has passed, or regaining consciousness after
the earthquakes. Many will move to safe areas and set up communes, operating in the Service-to-Others mode of the
future. These areas will be rural, essentially primitive, and they will not rely on civilization as they now know it either
before or after the cataclysms.
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ZetaTalk: Millennium Fever
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ZetaTalk: Millennium Fever
Note: written prior to July 15, 1995.
There will be many debates within the scientific communities as the changes we and others have predicted steadily
take place. Millennium fever would take place in any case because of the prophetic warnings that have piled up from
many sources, even if no actual physical or spiritual Earth changes were to take place. The millennium fever will get
white hot as the Earth's climate becomes universally hot, droughty, or endlessly soaked by rains in turn, and reports of
a faintly glowing star that seems to be moving and drawing nigh abound. Where the establishment will issue
reassurances that the climatic changes are periodic in the Earth's history, just a normal cycle, or that this is the
Greenhouse effect and can be reversed, many will not be subdued. Discussions will be lively, and the debates never
resolved. This will surely be much in the news, as it effects everyone on a daily basis, and for many worry and concern
will be their daily companions.
One issue hotly discussed will be prophesied dates, and as they come and go, there will be relief for some. In
particular, as the millennium date itself passes, there will be many who feel the discussions should be put to an end, as
continued discussion only seems to feed panic. However, the debates and news reports will only acerbate.
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ZetaTalk: Sound the Alarm
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ZetaTalk: Sound the Alarm
Note: written prior to July 15, 1995
How the populace will respond is, in fact, less a burning question than a hypothetical question, as the governments will
not tell the people they govern. They will dither, and argue, and agonize, but they will not speak. It is up to people, in
networks such as the Internet, to spread the word. Those who wish to hear will listen. Those who cannot deal with the
issue will deny. Those who would be unable to adjust, in any case, will also not listen, but will resign themselves. We
will get specific.
Talk of the end of the world, the millennium and what it means, has been about for centuries. For at least the past two
hundred years, men have been predicting that the end is to arrive at such or such a date. The dates have come and
gone. People are inured of such talk, and in general just smile when they hear it. Therefore, regardless of by whom or
how loudly the announcement is made, the vast majority of humanity will ignore the announcement. Even when the
12th Planet is visible, and drawing nigh, people will brush off such talk as yet another alarmist.
There is not much that any individual human could do to change this. Better your efforts are turned to establishing a
place for you and your friends, for your families and loved ones. Better you devote yourself to preserving the
technology of today, and preparing to feed your small group, so that something can survive, than trying to ignite the
masses. Else, your time will be wasted.
We are telling you, that even if the governments of the world were to shrill the alarm, starting today, that the people
they govern would brush off the truth. How does one prove the proposition? By pointing to geological changes?
Scientists have done this, over the centuries and decades coming to the present, with little effect. In fact, as with all
bearers of unpleasant facts, they are ridiculed. Those who can listen, do so, and those (who are in the vast majority)
who refuse to do so, close their minds. Even as the 12th Planet is becoming visible in the sky, by day or night,
mankind will brush this aside as a normal occurrence. Look how our space ships, seen by masses, are seen consciously
by only some. The others simply chose not to see.
Regarding whether there will be aggression in those who learn too late that a pole shift is imminent. We predict that
there will be gaiety, as gaiety is often the form of denial when doom is nigh. Parties will be held. Some will empty
their saving accounts, spend even the rent or house payment, to distract themselves in gaiety.
Where individual human action can make a difference is in the Aftertime, when survivors, young and old, know not
what to do or where to go. Prepare for injuries, and shock, and orphans in pitiable condition. Prepare to retrain
stragglers who come into your midst undernourished, unable to speak of the horror they have seen, with injuries
unattended and festering. These, you can attend to, as they will respond and listen to your voice.
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ZetaTalk: Past Cataclysms
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ZetaTalk: Past Cataclysms
Note: written on Feb 15, 1996.
The Earth bears witness to the cataclysms in her past and their periodic occurrence. Beyond her deep wound in the
Pacific basin, and beyond the drift of her continents, there are scars more palpable by man.
Mountain cliffs, which rise sheer in many cases thousands of feet, represent tearing of solid rock. These stands
before mankind, who even make a hobby of scaling their heights, ignored in their deeper meaning. Have any
experiments been done to determine how much force would be required to tear rock of this depth? None have.
The reason lies in the equally deep desire of mankind to avoid thinking about the Earth's past cataclysms.
Beneath the sea in the Bahamas lies evidence of civilizations that went under the waves - highways and highway
markers, clearly manmade. These areas have been explored by many fortune hunters, recorded by camera, and
published in full color repeatedly. Likewise ancient Incan cities stand so high in altitude that the cities could not
have been built, much less lived in. Yet the scientific community continues to claim that Earth changes happen
gently, inch by inch, at the pace experienced during the memory of their current civilization.
Antarctica bears witness to her past as a steamy swamp, and likewise the North Seas, where oil is extracted.
Likewise the temperate regions are scared by what is termed the Ice Ages, where these regions were as snow
and ice packed as the poles. A clue to these changes lies in the magnetism frozen in hardened lava, which
demonstrates that Magnetic North and South changed now and then. Has any adequate explanation been
proffered by the scientific community? None has, as all the explanations have the Earth's thin crust remaining in
place, as the thought that they are standing on a raft that can move on the sea of magma beneath them is too
frightening to contemplate.
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ZetaTalk: Wandering Poles
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ZetaTalk: Wandering Poles
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ote: written on Feb 15, 2002.
Confusion exists over why the ice in Antarctica dates back, apparently, for many pole shift periods. If one analyses the
last few shifts, it becomes apparent that the South Pole was either over, part way, Antarctica, or nearby in the ocean.
When a pole is over water, near land, the land mass retains its ice, under the influence of this large block of ice afloat.
This is due to cold water washing against the land mass, as well as air currents. As we have stated in ZetaTalk, the
prior shift moved the North Pole from Greenland to its present location. Prior to that, it was over the East Siberian Sea,
having pulled Siberia northward where the largest number of mammoth dieoff occurred. Tracing the North Pole over
the past few shifts, one sees that it spent a time over Scandinavia where it resided between the 4th and 5th shift back.
When it moved from Scandinavia into the Arctic north of Siberia, Europe warmed up, its glaciers melting. Prior to
Scandinavia, the North Pole centered over North America.
The Flood occurred because during the time the North Pole was over North America, the South Pole was over the
ocean south of India. When the North Pole moved to Scandinavia, the South Pole repositioned on the other side of
Antarctica. However, being over water, the former South Pole melted from the bottom, floating on the water in a
honeycombed shape. It retained a lot of cold, as the ocean water coming from Antarctica distributed this cold, so the
ice melt was not complete. A subsequent shift lurched this honeycombed ice and fractured it, so it dropped into the
ocean creating a displacement wave - the Flood. This water roared up toward Arabia and elsewhere north of this
splash. Narrowing into the waterways between Africa and Asia/Europe, water does what it does when under pressure,
it went into tidal bore. This caused more sea level rise in the area Noah lives in, described in the Bible as the Flood.
This water did not cover the rest of the world to this height, thus, as most coastlines allowed the splash to distribute,
not bore.
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ZetaTalk: Prior Shift
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ZetaTalk: Prior Shift
Note: written on Mar 15, 1998. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
You will not find the prior South Pole, as there, out over water, a 3,600 old melt and rebuilding left no trace. But the
prior North Pole should leave no doubt, as the Island of Greenland, with volcanoes melting the glaciers away in great
floods, is still more heavy with ice than all that has accumulated over the current water born poles to date, within the
past 3,600 years. Prior to the last pole shift there was a slightly colder Europe, a slightly warmer Russia.
And why did the continents rend, so that the oceans dropped such a significant degree into the rifts, during the last
shift? Because the passage was closer than will occur this coming time. The exact date and time when the Earth finds
itself distressed, and the passage occurs for the 12th, are not on the same clock! The speed, therefore, of the shift, was
enough to wrench the continents apart, in that the shift was barely moving before the Earth tried to pull into alignment
with the rapidly passing 12th, rather than in opposition. The crust was therefore jerked to and fro, rapidly. The violent
passage also was enough to heave the floor of the Red Sea, and to heap the waters up into glass mountains, so a
desperate band of Jews could dash forward to safety, with this dash their only choice other than a brutal and vengeful
death for all, as they well understood.
Note: below added during the Dec 28, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
Dr. Herbert Illig made scientific investigations and presented proofs that 300 years were added into our
history by King Constantin in the past, creating history on paper for the years AD 614 - AD 911.
#zetatalk channel
In the past, following the last pole shift, record keeping stopped and did not re-institute for centuries. In some areas,
there was record keeping by some means that or another, such as counting the days that passed, the number of seasons
that passed, and eventually these records came to the attention of those with time to muse on these issues. Where one
civilization failed to record during this or that period, another perhaps stepped into the void and kept reasonable
records. Thus, putting all this together, it became clear that some centuries were missing here or there, and to keep all
in sync, these missing centuries should be inserted. In fact, they did not insert enough time, but were trying to be
conservative. Thus, there is utter confusion, in human record keeping, on the timing of the last pole shift, which is seen
as occurring too close to the birth of Christ to fit the 3,600 model arriving at 2003. [Note: see 2003 Date explanation.]
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ZetaTalk: Jewish Exodus
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ZetaTalk: Jewish Exodus
Note: written on Nov 15, 1996. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.
The last passage of the 12th Planet is best remembered as the time of the Jewish exodus from Egypt, but what is not
well known is the reason for the exodus. Slaves do not just walk away from their masters, and in particular a large
group of slaves, old women and children among them, do not get miles away from their masters in a desert area where
lookouts can see for miles. The institution of slavery is maintained by cruelty and punishment, and slaves attempting
to escape are punished in a manner that will serve as a lesson to others contemplating such an escape attempt. Hands
and feet are chopped off when the slave wanders or reaches where they are not to go, eyes poked out when the slave
looks when they were supposed to drop their eyes, and tongues cut out when the speech of the slave is considered too
bold.
Thus, the Jewish exodus did not occur because this large group just decided to take a stroll one day, anticipating
nothing worse than a whipping as the comeuppance should they be discovered. The exodus occurred because their
masters were devastated and distracted by problems so severe as to take their minds entirely off their slaves. Would
this have been a flooded Nile or a plague of locusts or even celebration where all got drunk? Nothing in the normal
course of Egyptian society would have created a situation where the Jews could have left, en mass, or even a situation
where they all would have had the courage to leave. They left because the passage of the 12th Planet imposed first a
long night and then horrendous earthquakes and volcanic eruptions in nearby volcanoes.
Chaos reigned, the very type of chaos that governments throughout the world fear lies in their near future. Guards left
their posts, and household servants stole from their masters and crept away in the seemingly never-ending night. The
rulers held their heads in worry and discussed among themselves how they might placate the gods. The military elite,
used to utter control and tolerating no challenges to their orders, react to chaos by trying to re-establish order.
Hysterical troops, unable to comprehend what was happening to them, were in no mood to placate their superiors, and
thus the military was engaged with internal
battles for some time. It was not until the rotation of the Earth was re-
established that the Egyptian rulers and their military leaders were able to regain control of the troops. By that time, as
history well tells, the Jewish exodus was a success!
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ZetaTalk: Passover
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ZetaTalk: Passover
written Apr 5, 2004
Passover is mentioned in the Book of Exodus as coming before the exodus and after the
plagues of locusts. Does this imply that the Passage of Planet X occurs in the Spring? The
Book of Exodus and related Egyptian scribes mentioned some grain crops cut down by hail,
others not yet with grain set so spared. This again sounds like Spring or early Summer time
for the last pole shift period.
As one can note by the weather over the past year, when Spring flowers bloomed in the Fall in the northern hemisphere
in many countries, and the seasons almost alternating within the span of a week all over the globe, there is confusion
going into a pole shift on just what season is in place. Yet where droughts and plagues are mentioned in both Hebrew
and Egyptian texts, not given to anything but a religiously exacting portrayal, there is no mention of the stars being
wrong for the seasons, the seasons coming after one another out of turn, or a season lasting too long. Thus, to both
Hebrew and Egyptian scribes, both these cultures noted only weather extremes and their results. The frozen bodies of
mammoths also speak to a Spring season in the Siberian grasslands, with spring flowers found in their frozen guts.
Then there is the Nebra disc, which shows constellations surrounding the Sun as they would be in March, or even as
viewed somewhat later for a tilted and leaning Earth.
Does this mean that the last pole shift, during the Jewish Exodus, happened under circumstances similar to what the
Earth finds itself in now? It does.