ZetaTalk: Pole Shift

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by Nancy Lieder


  Planet X takes its sling orbit in a retrograde orbit around one side of the Sun, and one side only, on its way out into

  dark space again, passing through the solar system in what is closer to a straight line than any other depiction. For at

  least the last thousand passages, Planet X has always come in from the direction of Orion, always reacted to the

  sweeping arms of the Sun such that it started to hop them and assumeed a retrograde orbit, always dropped to a 32°

  position below the Ecliptic to avoid the crowded Ecliptic as it plunged toward the Sun, and always, thus, is in the

  Earth’s orbit to create havoc where the Earth would be in the fall and early Winter, not the Spring. So why the Spring

  flowers and grain set during the time of the Jewish Exodus? Planet X has also always captured the Earth in a head-on

  staring contest when it happened to be on that side of its orbit when Planet X was passing through, and thus when a

  cataclysmic pole shift is reported, it can be assumed that the Earth went into a halted orbit and tilted and leaning

  stance, as it is today.

  When the Earth in on the safe side of the Sun during a passage, Planet X zooms past, with no Repulsion Force conflicts

  to cause it to creep along, and if the Earth comes near an encounter at the Summer Solstice, is slows there, staying out

  of the traffic lane, while Planet X passes. During the Jewish Exodus, when the last pole shift occurred, the Earth

  arrived late to the posture it is in now, and thus Planet X had already risen up to the Ecliptic, had gained momentum,

  and passed quickly and at close proximity to the Earth, thus causing a quick jerk to and fro, as we have described, and not the long standoff that has occurred this time, though a slowed orbit and tilted inclination simulating a move into

  Spring did occur. Passover, thus, was assumed to be in the spring, with the first grain crop having set grain heads but

  others yet to do so, when the hail cut them down. On this current passage, the Earth was blocking the road as Planet X

  was rising to the Ecliptic, Venus and Mars were rounding the corner to crowd the roadway shortly thereafter, and

  Earth’s dark twin will have time to bring up the rear, all intensifying the Repulsion Force conflicts creating the staring

  contest ongoing.

  Just when this ends, we will not say, as the establishment, despite plans for corrective action, have still not informed

  the public of what they know, nor do they have any plans for regular updates when the public has become informed. If

  the common man cannot hear the news we have to bring, simultaneously, then the elite will continue to be denied too.

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  ZetaTalk: Passover

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  ZetaTalk: Mastodons

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  ZetaTalk: Mastodons

  Note: written on Jul 15, 2001 during the sci.astro debates.

  The Mastodon is a species that went extinct during the past few pole shifts, primarily when the grasslands they

  browsed in Siberia were drawn rapidly into the new polar circle. But where drawn into water and drown, and then far

  enough north, the Mastodons were flash frozen. If the Mastodons were not flash frozen, they would be in some sort of

  state of decay - perhaps the skin preserved, but the internal organs a mush. This is not the case, as your recent

  documentaries on the frozen state of these preserved beasts shows! So if flash frozen, and frozen steadily since that

  date, then how did the Mastodons get green grass and buttercups in their stomachs? A fast trot to the Arctic Circle?

  Does anyone presume they ate snow? These were herbivors! Their grasslands were moved during poles shifts. The

  remains of Mastodons that were not far enough into the polar circle to be completely frozen are bones and the ivory

  that has been harvested from the Ivory Islands for centuries. The bodies rotted, the Ivory did not. A wealth of ivory,

  with no flesh to disturb those shipping the tusks off to become piano keys. The permafrost only goes so deep, and just

  as in temperate areas, frost goes only so many inches of at most feet deep. There is soil, and mud, and decaying matter

  where decay proceeded with or without oxygen, just as it does in your gut where methane gas is generated daily.

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  ZetaTalk: Asteroid Traffic

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  ZetaTalk: Asteroid Traffic

  Note: written on Jul 15, 2001 during the sci.astro debates.

  What happens after a major earthquake? Aftershocks, and some of these not mild. Can you imagine life after a

  wrenching pole shift, where the ocean rifts have been ripped apart to the extent that the oceans of the world dropped in

  sea level some 16-20 feet, worldwide? What happens to cause aftershocks, which we are still experiencing from the

  last pole shift? After a pole shift, the plates come to rest, but there are inequities where pressure is constant against

  this or that point, the weight of one plate pressing against another, or pressing to move in a direction. They are restless

  in this regard, a long way from quiescence. They are held together by friction along the plate edged, or where they lay

  atop one another in the case of subducting plates. As any engineer will tell you, bridges and skyscrapers and that

  expensive new car you purchased will last only so long. There is wear and tear, stress fractures, changes in the

  chemistry of supporting structures over time, and finally - snap! When a snap, or earthquake, occurs, the plates move

  to a new position, and once again the process starts.

  Beyond aftershocks, there is the effect of what is termed Near Earth Asteroids, dragged into the vicinity of Earth by a

  close passage of Planet X, where they follow the planet as it comes through the Asteroid Belt and then get pulled into

  some sort of orbit that includes Earth. Objects, viewed form Earth, are relative in size, in that a distant Mars can appear

  tiny but a close asteroid can loom large. Meteors are described as shooting stars, or flaming objects streaking across

  the skies on their way to a thud on the ground, somewhere. It is not in the recent documentation of man that larger

  objects have fallen to Earth, but those events were recorded after the last pole shift, as Velikovsky has documented.

  Since the greater part of Earth is water, and many places are virtually uninhabited in vast deserts or the frozen

  wastelands of the poles, the likelihood of a large object dropping near a civilized and populated area is slight. Such a

  disaster happening even in a slightly populated locale would wipe out all witnesses close by, leaving only those at

  some distance as witnesses.

  Space shuttles and satellites put up by man regularly flame upon re-entry, so heat from the friction against increasing

  atmospheric pressure is obviously a factor. Lightning occurs during simple thundershowers due likewise to friction,

  where the electronic charge between air masses becomes different and is adjusted. Why would such lightning not

  occur during the fall of a minor asteroid to Earth? Is friction and heat and all the electronic repercussions that come

  from that in the atmosphere not present, as they are during thunderstorms? What are the plate impacts that occur when

  a minor asteroid does not burn up completely, upon falling to Earth? If an earthquake can result in many aftershocks,

  is this not a shock? Are nearby volcanoes subject to pressure on the lava beneath them not activated? A thud on a
plate

  results in immediate pressure from above on the plate, which has an immediate effect upon any volcanoes subject to

  lava pressure from below on that plate. The pressure on the plate likewise changes the dynamics on the tenuous plate

  edges, so that quakes from this source occur too, along with the aftershocks.

  This is what Velikovsky documented, in the very true reports from several centuries after the last shift. The

  forthcoming pole shift in 2003 [see 2003 explanation] is less likely to invoke minor asteroid passages of this sort, but as the core will shift farther without being drawn into an immediate alignment jerk, it will change the geographic in a more

  radical fashion. In addition, the sloshing of the oceans will create greater flood tides than the prior shift. Thus, this

  pole shift is anticipated to have a greater impact, and die-off, than the prior.

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  ZetaTalk: Velikovsky

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  ZetaTalk: Velikovsky

  Note: written on Aug 15, 1995. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.

  Immanuel Velikovsky was a genius on par with Einstein, which is a fact seldom mentioned by his detractors. Both he

  and Einstein were Star Children, and indeed were friends who engaged in the type of friendly argument only two

  geniuses could engage in. Velikovsky's Mission was to set mankind to thinking about the periodic cataclysms that have

  so dramatically left their Mark on the Earth and human history. Like Einstein, he was berated for presenting what most

  of mankind does not want to think about - bad news.

  Mountains obviously thrown skyward under extreme pressure, the Ruins of great civilizations with no reason for

  demise, flash frozen carcasses of healthy Mastodons with no evident cause of death - all this is put over the wall and

  not dealt with. Research into uncharted territory seldom results in solid conclusions all around. Theories based on

  theories don't have a solid base. That any of the theories prove out, under these circumstances, is a wonder. Thus, some

  of Velikovsky's theories as to the cause of the Earth's cosmic near-collisions are unfounded. Where the planet Venus

  was sent into an irregular orbit after one recent pole shift, the upheavals on Earth were caused only by the passage of

  the 12th Planet - the major ingredient in the brew. Unlike Einstein's theories of relativity, Velikovsky's theories cannot

  be effectively proved until the Red Star, the 12th Planet, returns to savage this Solar System again. Unfortunately for

  those unwilling to listen to Velikovsky or contemplate the evidence he so poetically presents, they will be learning the

  truth of his theories - too late!

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  ZetaTalk: Sitchin

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  ZetaTalk: Sitchin

  NOte: written on Aug 15, 1995. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.

  Zecharia Sitchin early on in his career as an archeologist discovered patterns that intrigued him. He had a penchant for

  solving puzzles that could be analyzed in this way, that presented patterns, and the more data he gathered the more

  intrigued he became. He was hooked. Mankind exhibits a kind of collective amnesia in regard to past pole shifts.

  Sitchin encountered similar reactions when his puzzle, forming into patterns, pointed to periodic cataclysms, a

  traveling planet the ancients counted as the 12th Planet, large strapping hominoids who had the appearance of Greek

  Gods shuttling to and from this visiting 12th Planet, and the inevitable and inescapable conclusion - this would happen

  to the Earth again! Faced with those rigidly resisting contemplating these conclusions or even glancing at the facts he

  so meticulously garnered, Sitchin shifted into high gear and sought to convince his critics with yet more facts, until his

  Arguments can scarcely be discounted by all but those in firm denial. However, today one still finds this spread. There

  are those who read and learn, those who read and become advocates of Sitchin's theories, and those who refuse to read

  or if pressed to do so nevertheless refuse to absorb or deal with the facts presented.

  Sitchin skeptics arm themselves by challenging his conclusions when they are based on ancient Summerian records

  that could be interpreted in a number of different ways. Scientists doing research are allowed to present a theory, and

  set out their research to prove or disprove the accuracy of that theory. They are allowed to be wrong, or partially

  wrong, and to correct their theory from what is learned and proceed with further research. Sitchin, bearing an alarming

  message that tends to belittle arrogant humans determined to be God’s only creation or frighten those who cannot deal

  with the thought of pole shifts or visitations by powerful aliens, is not given this latitude. Where it is clear that the

  giant hominoids had mastered space flight to the extent that man on Earth has with their probes and shuttles and space

  stations, and where it is clear that the ancient Summerians were aware of the outer planets only recently discovered by

  modern man during the past century, other Sitchin conclusions are not to clear as to be based on fact, and thus he lays

  himself open to criticism.

  The giant hominoids from the 12th Planet tinkered with genetic engineering, and doodled their fantasies, like science

  fiction, in murals. This has been taken as fact by Sitchin, who failed to consider that these murals might constitute a

  plan, not past fact. These hominoids did not create man, nor did they create cross-breeds between man and animals -

  mythological creatures with the bottom half a horse, the top a man. Such creatures would not be created by altering

  DNA, as any geneticist will confirm, nor would transplanting between incompatible species create such a creature. Just

  as the Bible talks about the evolution of the Earth and mankind in story form, the ancient Summerian tales about the

  birth of the planets in Earth’s solar system have likewise been written in many cases to be understood by the common

  man. Where the giant hominoids present during this time? They were not, and were thus speculating, from their

  vantage point, just as human scientists today speculate about the information they receive from their probes and

  telescopes. Thus, beyond the evidence that these ancient records present about a traveling planet that visits Earth’s

  solar system approximately every 3,600 years or so, these ancient records should be viewed as human documents are

  today - reflecting an author’s unproved theory, listing the potentials that a plan can bring, or biased by bragging and

  hyperbole.

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  ZetaTalk: Prophets

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  ZetaTalk: Prophets

  Note: written on Mar 15, 1996.

  Many prophecies have alluded to the coming pole shift, which is a known date and thus was wedded to the millennium

  in many prophecies as 2003 [Note: see 2003 Date explanation] comes so close on the heels of the year 2000. In addition to prophecies written years ago, there are many valid channels who are writing warnings about the coming times, and

  contactees reporting similar visions. At times, the prophecies seem to differ, and this causes consternation among those

  reading them and looking for a firm guidance during troubled times
. The periodic cataclysms that the Earth endures are

  reflected not only in the Earth's geology and the written and spoken legends of her peoples, they are woven into the

  warnings muttered by prophets. Invariably prophecy gets packaged for the intended audience, but if one reads beyond

  the surface for the deeper meaning, one will find a remarkably similar theme.

  Compare the Hopi Indian, Mother Shipton, and Oasphe descriptions of the forthcoming time of destruction and death

  with the scientific analysis done by Sitchin and Velikovsky, and one will find, time after time, that they correlate. Yet

  the Hopi had no contact with Mother Shipton, nor she with the Ohio dentist who wrote the Oasphe, and Sitchin and

  Velikovsky moved in different circles and during different eras. Therefore, dwell less on the trivial differences in their

  prophecy, and more on the similarities. It is like the proverbial blind men, walking about the elephant, each describing

  a different feel of the object they have encountered. What is the truth? In fact, all is truth, but one must sort it out by

  seeing the similarities, not the differences. For instance, the blind men groping at the elephant could all report the same

  skin feel, the same height of the beast, that it felt warm, was alive. They could likewise have reported each from their

  position that this felt like a leg, or moved as though not supporting the beast as in a trunk or an ear. This is the

  approach that those reading prophecy or channeled work should take.

  Where has the coming shift been reported, with some accuracy, in ancient or recent writings? The Bible, in

  Revelations, is often quoted and is most definitely reporting the occurrence of a pole shift. Hail, quakes, volcanoes,

  fire from the sky, meteors, and waters turned bitter and red with the red dust. Often the appearances from the sky are

  described as creatures, such as a dragon or lion or scorpion. Imagine a frightened populace seeing fire storms

  descending upon them, whipped by winds, and hearing the earth moan about them as the crust resisted separating from

  the core. The Bible was describing a scene for primitive peoples, without the science knowledge of today, and without

 

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