by Nancy Lieder
recovery, or simply in a primitive and self centered, idle, lifestyle may not have souls. On the other hand, they might.
It is dependent on what lessons the soul requires, and what school room the soul would best be in to receive these
lessons.
Would a soul ever enter and incarnate into a non-human physical form? Most certainly, but only on rare occasions
would such an arrangement be allowed. The reason is that this existence does not have much to teach an entity, and
this is the consideration by which the birthing envoys are guided. What type of animal might the entity incarnate into?
Any kind, although most likely this would be a mammal, a reptile, or a bird. These categories include the mammals of the seas, and small as well as large reptiles and birds. Thus, when you see life, you should consider it to be precious, as you know not what you may be destroying.
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ZetaTalk: Thinking Machines
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ZetaTalk: Thinking Machines
Note: written Aug 15, 1995.
A goal of research scientists is to create robots so effective at running matters that all of mankind in essence becomes akin to the upper class - waited on hand and foot. To be effective in these roles, robots would have to repair and
reproduce themselves, or each other, i.e. propagate; be able to adapt to changing circumstances, i.e. learn; and, since mankind can't be bothered, make logical determinations, i.e. think. Standing between the robot and sentient life forms, then, lies only emotion - hopes, caring, desire, rage - the motivators. In pursuit of this dream servant, scientists are casting a jealous eye on biological elements, which can propagate, learn, and think. But biological elements invariably carry the capacity for emotions. Even the amoebae reacts to defend itself, to escape, and moves toward that which it desires.
Where is the line to be drawn? Do we, the Zetas, not use a massive computer for data storage and communication
between alien groups in the Service-to-Other orientation, and does this computer not use biological components? We
equate this to your use of wood and leather, as the biological elements we use are not alive. They cannot propagate, nor do they move to defend themselves or move toward that which they desire. They do not have desire. They are dead. This is the ethical guidelines we use in creating robots, but these are not simply guidelines we have determined among ourselves. The Council of Worlds, which oversees all situations where one intelligent life form can enslave
another, forbids the use of living biological material as components of thinking machines. The robot that propagates, learns, thinks, and as all life has emotion is alive, yet enslaved, as controls would surely be put into place to prevent the servant class from arising. Thus, media scenarios such as The Stedford Wives, or The Terminator, or Star Trek' s Data would not be allowed to develop, not even if scientists in 3rd Density managed to develop them, which is far
from likely. That those in 3rd Density, who are emerging souls in the process of determining a spiritual orientation, would attempt to do so is one of the reasons for limiting the capabilities during 3rd Density.
Mankind, in short, is too dumb to create a handy-dandy version of intelligent, sentient life. One, per their desires, which would never break down or talk back, would always look good, be compliant in bed, foresee one's needs, repair the car, be infinitely loyal, smart as a whip but never look down on the master, and never suffer from neglect. The child's dream.
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ZetaTalk: Robots
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ZetaTalk: Robots
Note: written May 15, 1997.
Robots were first thought of during human development as workers, other humans. As in most 3rd Density worlds,
enslaving the other is a constant consideration, and this slavery takes many forms. Shackling the worker to his task and working him to death is the most obvious, but the shackles that are not obvious are still just as binding. The husband who cannot leave his wife without encountering a smothering monthly support bill will tolerate demands from his
master just as a shackled slave would. Both cannot think of escape due to the pain it would bring. With the advent of programmable machines such as computers, the thought of having machines as slaves is irrepressible. They don’t
require wages, never demand a day off, and can be relied upon to be consistent and do what they were told to do! Such a cooperative slave.
Programmed machinery is a natural occurrence in densities higher than 3rd Density also, and to a great degree. Where the passion to enslave another is not present in 4th Density Service-to-Other communities, the desire for a silent and reliable teammate to help one do one’s job better is more certainly ever present. Robots are developed and used up to but not beyond the point where they could be considered sentient or conscious, as the Council of Worlds does not
allow thinking machines, in essence biorobots, to be developed and enslaved by other intelligent species. The line is drawn where including the components of life would enter in - DNA capable of self initiated thought, emotion, and
most particularly a conscious sense of the self as separate from the surroundings.
Intelligent machines, no matter how remarkable, are always following their initial programming. Their ability to
learn from circumstances inevitably follows this initial programming, and cannot unshackle itself from this.
Robots are not constructed without programming, to form their own idea, so to speak, of what to do in this or
that circumstance. Such a master would be unleashing a monster, as the robot could conclude that the master
should be eliminated, for instance. Thus, where the urge to have silent slaves is frequently present, the urge to
allow them to decide their own tasks and purpose is never present.
The complexity of DNA, which breaks from the original coding to mutate, and frequently, has the capacity to
break from its original genetic programming. Only life, where the brain upon birth is unprogrammed, can sustain a truly original thought. Robots would be unreliable if allowed to mutate, and are thus never constructed in this
manner. Robots also do not have the complexity that DNA sequences allow, as the very complexity allows for
variance and unpredictability - the antithesis of the concept of a reliable mechanical and undemanding slave!
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ZetaTalk: Lack of Choice
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ZetaTalk: Lack of Choice
Note: written May 15, 1997.
To humans, who observe that their computers often seem more intelligent than other humans, our assertion that the
rules we must observe regarding sentient or conscious thinking machines prevent our machines from becoming alive
must seem confusing. A retarded human who can barely recall the sequences necessary to put one leg into a set of
trousers is alive and conscious, but a powerful computer monitoring a myriad of logic threads simultaneously is not.
Just how does that compute! The difference is subtle, and where the line may seem blurred to humans who are
confusing performance with intrinsic intellectual independence. i.e. choice, the issue is not confusing to us. We will expand on the differences between performance and choice.
Quite often, and in fact most often in machines developed in higher densities, the performance of the machine is superior to the performance a life form could attain. This should not be surprising in that the machine was
developed for this reason - because the life form desired more rapid or re
liable performance than they could attain, or tired of the redundant activity required when the life form itself was performing the activity. This is
precisely why humans invented computers, which at first did simple calculations rapidly and with almost
unerring accuracy. This is still why humans press for faster speed and the ability to handle more complex
calculations, as the computer allows for insights requiring the processing of immense amounts of data, or rapid
analysis of the data for on-the-spot decisions. Nevertheless, the computer is performing as its masters directed.
Entities form in the life forms that DNA makes possible not because there is activity, which in any case takes
place in a swirling nebula, but because of the possibility for choice. The readership can relate to this if they think of common situations they themselves face almost daily. They rise in the morning. In this they have a choice, as they can choose not to rise, to sleep on for more minutes or hours, to refuse to rise ever until they die in bed, to engage in all manner of activities in bed from affectionate or sexual interchanges with their mate to reading or
masturbation or simply scratching. In all of this the choice is theirs. Now imagine that one was required to rise automatically, no choice, and proceed through a regimen of steps such as tooth brushing and dressing in a pre-defined outfit, every day, day after day, without any foreseeable change. Too boring! Humans have been known
to kill themselves due to unrelenting boredom, and forming entities simply do not incarnate into such situations.
Machines are not intelligent as in being capable of thought, they are simply well programmed and capable of adaptive reasoning. Where this differs from the free choice that DNA that has evolved into complex organisms
can sustain, is in the degree to which the initial programming dictates the outcome of conclusions. Machines adapt to the environment, but always within the dictates of their initial programming. Living organisms have
multiple branches in their logic trees, in that these branches can be grown in response to the environment and
past choices, where machines in fact do not have branches. What might be taken for a machines logic tree is in fact a predetermined branch dictated by the initial program.
Thus, the rule that machines, no matter how complex, cannot carry incarnating souls is not one that needs enforcement.
It happens quite naturally as the entities simply don’t linger!
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ZetaTalk: Bounded Robots
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ZetaTalk: Bounded Robots
Note: written Jul 15, 1997.
Confusion over whether robots are alive, make choices, or might be incarnated with spirits lies in understanding what is seen versus what is unseen on the surface. On the surface, humans see robots able to entertain focus on a task at hand to the exclusion of all possible distractions, and thus, for instance, win at a game of chess over a human chess master. Is the robot not thinking? Yes and no, depending upon how one classifies thought. To primitive peoples, a simple computer program appears to be thinking, as it can rapidly arrive at a conclusion while entertaining a problem it has been programmed to address. Computer programs are not considered brains by most humans only because they
can gaze at and understand the program, and can see that the computer is simply following instructions.
What is seen in robots versus humans is that:
1. Robots can go places humans cannot, such as the surface of Mars or the outer reaches of the Solar System.
2. Robots can concentrate on a bounded task, such as a game of chess, far better than humans.
3. Robots can operate without attention or direction from their human masters.
4. Humans get distracted by their biological needs.
5. Humans can have intractable prejudices or cultural viewpoints that they refuse to drop.
What is unseen is that robots are bounded in ways that DNA is not bounded. Humans are bounded by their biology, an inability to put aside their biological needs, so that they cannot travel where robots can, exclusively concentrate on a task as robots can, or remain calm in disturbing circumstances such as a burning building or the torture of another human might present. In overcoming biological imperatives, robots seem superior, especially since the average human does not understand how they have been programmed and are in awe. Robots, however, are bounded in what they can address. Even where robots are designed to repair themselves and make minor adjustments to their surroundings, they are still operating within their original programming.
Humans see their DNA in light of its limitations, an upper limit on IQ, on the speed an athlete can sustain, or on
longevity. They see the end result of decisions as limited because the human can only maneuver about in their natural habitat, so the complexity of what went into decision making is not apparent. What is unseen is the spiritual struggle, the pondering of the workings of the Universe, or the multiplicity of factors that go into a single decision to walk down the street or stay in the house! A robot arrives at its decision quickly because it does not ponder. Humans are virtually unlimited in their ability to ponder, which is what makes their life form attractive to the stuff of souls so that entities form within humans. Robots are utterly boring, as they have an inability to ponder, being programmed to reach quick conclusions after considering a set number of variables, and thus do not attract the stuff of souls, regardless of
appearances!
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ZetaTalk: Rule of Forgetfulness
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ZetaTalk: Rule of Forgetfulness
Note: written Oct 15, 1996.
Forgetfulness occurs naturally. When an entity incarnates into a human body, the mind naturally has no knowledge of past lives. The mind develops memories from what it experiences, observes through its senses, and concludes due to
the mental processes resulting from all this. Thus forgetfulness is natural, and breakthroughs where the spirit has an opportunity to relay bits and pieces of a past life rare. The Rule of Forgetfulness is not an imposed rule, it is a rule of nature. However, given that incarnations work this way, and incarnations have proven to be the fastest way young spirits grow and mature, no one is rushing forward to bring a newly incarnated body up to date on what has happened before. In fact, such a process can delay maturity or skew the eventual decision the entity makes on its first lesson, the orientation lesson. Imagine instances in life given no knowledge of past decisions or full knowledge of past decisions.
A mother, cuddling her newborn infant, sees its helplessness and dependence on her and imagines the feelings of
abandonment and desperation such an infant would feel if not held and loved and rescued when distressed. The
mother, being basically a caring person, and the incarnating entity inclined toward the Service-to-Other,
proceeds to care for the infant with great affection and pride in herself for her competence. If in past lives the
entity incarnating had deserted a new born, to ease the pressure on herself, and all the memories of this past
incident were remembered, then the current situation would be colored with guilt and shame and in particular,
the strong memory of what caused the abandonment in the first place. The mother might defend her prior action
by repeating it, as a way of saying to herself that she had done nothing wrong. Or the mother might look around
warily, looking for evidence that she need be on guard again, rather than caring for her newborn.
A man, on the job with others whom he is competitive with while at the same time these same others are his
friends. A promotion opportunity comes up, and there are several c
andidates. The man has seen one particular
co-worker working long hard hours and knows this co-worker to be more competent than the others. Putting
himself in the place of this co-worker and imagining the hurt that would come from being bypassed, especially
when the best choice, the man decides to back his friend, rather than compete with him. In the current
incarnation, the entity does not foresee distress at losing out, as win or lose the promotion there will be enough
to go around for all. If the human were aware of what the entity experienced in past lives, where the entity may
have focused solely on what was to be gained over what the impact on others might have been, his focus during
the current situation might be pulled in the direction of entertaining thoughts of what the additional money could
buy, or what power the new status might bring one.
Thus, forgetfulness allows the entity to move through circumstances that were similar to past circumstances, trying them out with a different approach and consequently experiencing a different outcome.
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ZetaTalk: Karmic Justice
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ZetaTalk: Karmic Justice
Note: written Apr 15, 1996.
Where karma on a personal level does not pass from one life time to another, it could be said that karma between
intelligent species does exist, in the same manner that a type of karma exists between nations or social groups on Earth. Look to the American Negro, who long after their emancipation as slaves are still exacting karmic justice from their white overlords. Look to the economic rights America grants to Japan, whom they dropped the bomb upon. This
type of karma occurs because it is written in the conscience of those who enact it, not because it is imposed from without. A type of karma between intelligent species from different worlds may reflect this kind of regret or concern, but may also be imposed by the Council of Worlds.