2) Social Change:
NORDICS: Nordic society has been around for the whole time that Humans have had a history and even prior. Human/Nordics, as might be imagined, came from an early experiment to produce Earth-based Hybrids. The modern Human/Nordics do not now possess any Nordic or Gray characteristics, just the physical characteristics of coloring. We make history by discussing, and then acting, seeing what happens, discussing, and then acting again. Nordics have not had a significant effect on Human history although we have been present for a long time.
3) Social Inequality:
NORDICS: In Nordic society there are not many inequalities as we all possess the same abilities. Individuality is not as strong as in Human society. However, we can pass as Human, in Human society, are adept at languages and social customs, we do not have as much humor or emotionality as Humans. If there is more than one of us in a group, we may seem to be conferring with each other more than Humans. We consider it a great honor to be present in Human society and as part of the Hybrids. Some Nordics bilocate into Earth society to study and learn about Human society.
Part 4
What are people thinking and doing there?
NORDICS: Nordics think and do by group consensus and are most everywhere in the galaxy. Our home is TS3490 on a map coordinate system designed by your NASA.
Q: I am not sure of this designation or of the system. I Googled “NASA Map Coordinates” and came up with a Galactic Coordinate Map that has coordinates between 90 and 180 degrees. Not sure how to read this map. 90 would be somewhere halfway along the lateral line and 34 possible towards its inner center?
Q: Where do the Grays come from?
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Q: What kinds of people are there?
NORDICS: The Nordics consider themselves a people under every definition. They are physical but can bi-locate a spirit/mind into a prepared physical body at another location.
Who is included and who is excluded?
NORDICS: All Nordics are included in Nordic society. No Nordic is excluded. If a Nordic is impaired or damaged they cannot communicate, cannot function, and do not survive.
What rules and norms govern behavior there?
NORDICS: The rules and norms are communication before action. Level of communication before action are decided by the complexity of decision.
How are roles assigned and tasks divided?
NORDICS: Again, roles are assigned through communication, mostly mind-to-mind and action by one or more Nordics.
Who says so?
NORDICS: The group says so.
How are people socialized?
NORDICS: The group socializes.
Whose interests do these social arrangements serve?
NORDICS: The group.
Who benefits and who loses?
NORDICS: Mostly the group benefits, sometimes a Nordic loses due to inability to communicate. Sometimes there is a glitch in the prepared body that is to receive a bilocated mind/soul. If the glitch involves the ability to communicate, that one is lost. It happens rarely.
What powerful people, processes, institutions, and structures influence these arrangements?
NORDICS: All of these arrangements have been put in place long ago and work efficiently. As mentioned, there is sometimes a glitch but rarely.
In what ways are things changing there and in what ways are they staying the same?
NORDICS: Most things stay the same, little changes.
When, how, and why do people resist?
NORDICS: There is group consensus and very little resistance.
Q: Is this process or system relatively sustainable?
NORDICS: Yes, very sustainable.
Assessment of the Nordic
The Nordics seem to be much more vocal and communicative than the Large Gray. They seem to have many unusual talents and the ability to merge with Human society. The Nordics have complete mastery of time and space. They are not “zoned” in one time and space. They appear to communicate before they act and are able to pre-fabricate bodies into which they can bilocate. Nordics operate on a system of norms that are pre-agreed by discussion among varying sizes of groups. There is consensus before action. It would be interesting to “hang out” with a group of Nordics who have bilocated. Having a new understanding of the Nordics would ensure this was a more uneventful meeting.
There do not seem to be individuals within Nordic society that violate the norms, nor do there seem to be varieties of Nordics, however, they do seem to form a society according to our understanding of the term.
The Nordics do not appear to have or need a written language as all Nordics mentally communicate information to each other, either through small groups or larger groups. They are able to communicate voice-to-voice when in Human society and it is possible that they can also read and write in Human languages. The Nordic who was interviewed was quite open, although I suspect there is more than what was conveyed. The Nordic was much more open than the Gray. A handwriting sample from a bilocated Nordic would be interesting!
We thank the Nordics for their cooperation and thoroughness in answering our questions. The next group to be interviewed is the Small Grays.
3: The Exobiology Project:
Talking With The Small Grays
Part 1
Q: How do they cooperate? Is there a Confederation that is acting together?
SMALL GRAYS: We have always been. We have always been here. We are not part of the Confederation. We do not need to act together but we do, with the other Grays and the Whites (referred to in this transcript as Nordics) and many others. We were here before you and will be here after you. We tolerate you. The Earth is home to many species not just Humans. The Earth is for everybody, for Humans and others. Humans and others claim the Earth as their own but it belongs to everybody: Grays, Nordics, Humans and many others. Humans do not have any priority claim to the Earth. Humans need to tolerate other species as well as tolerate other Humans.
Q: Are you a mechanical species, as some Humans claim?
SMALL GRAYS: No, we are biological but different in our biology than Human and other species.
Q: Are you part plant, as some Humans say, that your tissues contain chlorophyll?
SMALL GRAYS: We are not plant but use chlorophyll in a symbiotic way. Chlorophyll provides us with energy and nutrients.
Q: Is that why you look bluish-Gray in white light?
SMALL GRAYS: Yes, the chlorophyll in our skins colors our appearance. We are also able to bioluminescence.
Q: I once “observed” a Gray in captivity. Did this one die and what could have been done to keep it alive?
SMALL GRAYS: It did die. It needed other Grays and it needed nutrients.
Q: Do we have these nutrients on Earth?
SMALL GRAYS: Some of them. Chlorophyll, boron, but others you do not have.
Q: So, that means that captured Grays will always die?
SMALL GRAYS: Not always. Some may have enough reserves to survive.
Q: Are you mainly nocturnal?
SMALL GRAYS: Yes, we work by night. Bright light, unless it has special filters, damages us. Both heat and light damage us.
Q: How does the chlorophyll provide nutrients if it does not have sunlight?
SMALL GRAYS: We have special illumination.
Q: Is there more to the Orbs, observed by others and can they manifest responses? Are there different types of Orbs?
SMALL GRAYS: There are different types of Orbs. Some have intelligence. Some are able to act independently.
Q: The Nordics said that the Orbs were mainly messengers and probes. Are they wrong?
SMALL GRAYS: No, they are not wrong. The Orbs that they work with do not have autonomy but go where they are sent.
Q: Is this comparable to someone having a domesticated dog and another person owning a semi-wild wolf?
SMALL GRAYS: No. It is like keeping one dog chained, yet allowing another to roam.
Q: That could be dangerous.<
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SMALL GRAYS: Only if the roaming dog is aggressive. Orbs are not aggressive. They do not carry weapons. They are able to materialize and dematerialize. They carry information and energy and are useful.
Q: Could we learn to harness the Orbs?
SMALL GRAYS: That is a Human concept. Orbs are intelligent. They will come or go when asked. They will carry information.
Q: Can the different extraterrestrial races also manifest responses and are they positively oriented? Are there inherent conflicts detrimental to our interests?
SMALL GRAYS: There are species that are detrimental to Humans.
Q: Which ones?
SMALL GRAYS: More later.
Q: (Upon reviewing this questions, it was not answered later.)
Q: Aren’t abductions detrimental to Humans?
SMALL GRAYS: No. They are beneficial.
Q: They can be very traumatic to Humans.
SMALL GRAYS: It is for research, for Human growth.
Q: Is it true that the Hybrids are a combination of Human, Gray and Nordic?
SMALL GRAYS: Yes.
Q: Can alien technology harm Humans?
SMALL GRAYS: Yes, propulsion systems and fields can harm Humans if they are in the way. We need Humans to not get in the way.
Q: Can other alien races prevent abductions?
SMALL GRAYS: Yes, other races could prevent the abductions but do not.
Q: Why not?
SMALL GRAYS: Because it is beneficial for them too.
Q: Are you talking about the Nordics?
SMALL GRAYS: Yes, mainly but others benefit, too.
Q: Who?
SMALL GRAYS: Humans, Lights, Smooths.
Q: Who are the good guys, who are the bad guys and what can we learn from them?
SMALL GRAYS: Good and bad are Human terms. Humans are different than Nordics and Grays and others. You can learn to be tolerant and work together.
Q: Can some races render implants fallible?
SMALL GRAYS: Yes but why would they? Humans can render implants fallible but they would be replaced. Always, they would be replaced.
Q: Can we interfere with the functioning of implants?
SMALL GRAYS: Yes, Humans can interfere with the functioning but they would be replaced, always.
Q: Are they the same races or different groups of the same race that are carrying out the abductions?
SMALL GRAYS: We carry out most collections and the Large Grays and Nordics sometimes help, if there is resistance.
Q: Do you ask the Nordics to help if the abductee is scared of the Grays?
SMALL GRAYS: Yes.
Q: How do they travel and is this travel with or without vehicles?
SMALL GRAYS: We travel with vehicles, large and small.
Q: Are these manufactured someplace?
SMALL GRAYS: Partly manufactured and partly grown.
Q: Does that mean they have plant-like qualities?
SMALL GRAYS: No, they grow like crystals but they are not crystals. They grow to a form which we put together.
Q: Our knowledge of physics is growing, is there some point in our near future, when we will understand your travel physics?
SMALL GRAYS: There are some who already know, others who are learning but it will be a long time before being put into use.
Q: The Nordics are able to bi-locate into prepared bodies that are waiting for them. Can you do this?
SMALL GRAYS: No.
Q: How long can Hybrids stay on Earth and why has the hybridization program taken so long?
SMALL GRAYS: Hybrids stay on Earth for very short periods. All Hybrids have varying amounts of Gray, Nordic, and Human. Some Hybrids have more Human and can stay on Earth for longer time periods; some have more Nordic and Human than Gray. Most Hybrids, especially those with more Gray, stay away from Earth. Hybrids have always been and will continue to be for a longer time.
Q: What and who are the Indigo Children? Is there a specific race that is producing the Indigo Children?
SMALL GRAYS: No race is producing the Indigo Children. They have always been. They interest us and we collect them more often. They have been in every culture and at every time but have not always been recognized.
Q: Why are some species interested in hydrocarbons? Are they rare in the galaxy? What about other minerals and gases: hydrogen, boron? What purpose do these species put hydrocarbons to? Are we in conflict for these resources?
SMALL GRAYS: You are not the only species that needs these minerals and gases. They are for everybody. Grays and others took these resources before Humans were on Earth. No conflict.
Part 2
Q: They obviously find our Human civilization to possess valuable galactic characteristics, some of which they probably lost eons ago, or they wouldn’t be interbreeding with us. They certainly possess the ability to destroy our Human civilization, but have not, why?
SMALL GRAYS: Humans are a novelty. They came along, long after we were already here. There is no need to destroy. We add the Human characteristics to the Hybrids. We are the ones who were here first on the Earth, before Humans. Humans are interesting. There is no need to destroy them.
Q: The Nordics say that they started a Nordic Hybrid that has become the Human/ Nordics. Is that correct?
SMALL GRAYS: We do not know.
Q: I have read that the Grays do not always know what Humans are doing or saying, that they only pay attention to certain things? Is this so?
SMALL GRAYS: Yes. There would be too much data. We perceive most but not all.
Q: Is this intergalactic ethics - being held to certain behavior by other ET civilizations? Or is it just that their self-interest benefits more by using us for their own needs rather than simply destroying us (a similar model of how things operate on Earth)?
SMALL GRAYS: Each group lives by its own rules. We use Earth for our own needs but we do not need to destroy.
Q: There have been stories of Humans being hurt during abductions, for example broken limbs.
SMALL GRAYS: This is true. Accidents happen. Humans get broken sometimes. We try not to do this.
Q: Is it true that there is a hierarchy: hooded, robed ones, down to reptilian, Nordics, Large Grays, then small Grays?
SMALL GRAYS: No, we all have our own tasks and levels. We work together but there is no hierarchy. Hierarchy is a Human concept. This is how Humans see our races. We are not the aliens, Humans are the aliens. Some Grays collect the Humans and prepare them for procedures. The Humans are then given to the Grays and others for their use while they are with us.
Q: Given the billions of likely planets in our galaxy alone, there couldn’t be anything very unique and special about Earth. Although the need to mine some of the debris circling Saturn is puzzling - - the implications of which implies a gigantic civilization that is widespread in our galaxy with a vast need for ongoing raw material supply. I would very much appreciate your insights on what all this implies about the nature of intergalactic inhabitation, the inhabitants in a portion or all of our galaxy. Are they dominant or is there a cacophony of conflicting vested interests in our galaxy like here on Earth?
SMALL GRAYS: There are many species. We all have our interests. There is no conflict among the ones who work together.
Q: Is there pressure for the Grays to join the Confederation?
SMALL GRAYS: No. We join when we are ready. There are species that do not work with us but they have their own interests.
Q: Would that be the robed Reptilians, and others?
SMALL GRAYS: Yes.
Q: What are the intentions of each race? What is each race’s ongoing purpose and when will this be completed?
SMALL GRAYS: Too many to tell. The Grays collect Humans, gain knowledge, construct Hybrids, travel, learn, and work together.
Q: There is still a question in my mind that small Grays are robot-like and perhaps mechanical?
SMALL GRAYS: No. We have become as one because we share everything. We appear insect-like and ca
nnot survive alone. There is no completion date.
Q: Will there be a scenario like a “shock wave” from a distant part of the galaxy that will wipe out Earth? Will it hit the Earth and its oceans?
SMALL GRAYS: There have been and will be shock waves. Humans are new and will have to learn how to avoid these. Our races know how to avoid them by going into the Earth. It will hit the Earth and the oceans. Humans are always concerned about what may or may not happen instead of living now.
Q: That sounds very Zen-like!
SMALL GRAYS: It is how we survive.
Q: What does the future of the Earth look like, say in 2012? What types of scenarios, based on fact, will Earth experience?
SMALL GRAYS: No Response.
Q: Do the Small Grays create such scenarios in their “Mind scans?”
SMALL GRAYS: Yes, but not to predict the future, to see what emotions arise. These scenarios are always possible. They have happened and they will happen. Earth will experience all of them in the future.
Q: Are there specific races that are influencing our leaders and the process of civilization? Does any one race or a combination control our civilizations? If so why is this permitted?
SMALL GRAYS: There is no race that controls all other races. That is Earth-thinking. We all control ourselves. There is no permitting because it is not so. There are no races that purposely influence the Earth’s leaders except if they are collected. Then they are the same as all others who have been collected. Some leaders have been collected, others not.
Q: What decides who you will collect and who you will not collect?
SMALL GRAYS: We have criteria: physical, mental, and emotional. We do not recognize social or racial groups as you do. All are equally collected.
Q: Would other civilizations be able to counter the possible Earth changes? Are the Orbs more positive to Humans?
SMALL GRAYS: Other civilizations have been around and will be around during Earth changes. Change is always happening on Earth. We do not counter any Earth changes. Most Orbs do not have personality that is positive or negative. Positive and negative are Earth judgments.
Q: Regarding other controlling civilizations, what can we do as Humans to enter this chain of command?
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