by Bill Etem
foul heretic bound for hell if you put yourself in opposition to the Christian establishment. The Christian establishment were ‘God’s anointed ones’. And you were seen as a foul heretic bound for hell if you opposed God’s ‘anointed ones’. And this subject led into the topic of how Protestants have become heretics, how Protestants have fallen away from the True Faith, how Protestants are led to perdition, because they have indeed fallen away from the True Faith.
Moderator - ‘William Manchester, who wrote the most famous bio of Winston Churchill, told us in A World Lit only by Fire that 29 consecutive popes declared it was heresy to state that the earth revolves round the sun. You’re a dumb-ass, you’re an effing tard, you’re a brainless bastard, you’re a person who has sh*t for brain if you can’t see that the Church of Rome fell away from the True Faith many centuries ago. You have to be a retard if you can’t see that Rome fell away from the True Faith. But the Episcopalian Church has not fallen away! You have to be a retard if you can’t see that the Episcopalian church is God’s True Church! I say the sign of the cross is sacred to God! Of course, on the other hand, if every Protestant sect under the sign of the cross, indeed if every sect under the sign of the cross, led souls to perdition, if every sect under the sign of the cross has fallen away from the True Faith, if no church under the sign of the cross is the Church which Christ founded on a rock, if every church under the sign of the cross is satanic, then I suppose you might indeed burn in hell forever if you put the mark of a cross on your forehead….Anyway let’s take a brief recess. I gotta get some of them free turkey legs. They’re delicious and cheap too, and they’re made in the USA! They’re made right here in the USA by American workers killing American turkeys! – made right across the Mississippi from Rock Island, in Atalissa, IA. I suppose you can pretend you’re Henry VIII. – the 2nd Tudor king, the guy who murdered some of his wives – the guy who founded the Church of England - while you gnaw on them.’
Old Protestant Lady - ‘What are you babbling about? Why would I pretend I am Henry VIII?’
Moderator - ‘I’m looking into the justification for the Church of England. So, Case 1 says the Church of Rome is God’s True Church. Rome is the Church which Christ founded on a rock. Rome leads souls to heaven and Rome leads no one to perdition. Case 2 says Rome is not God’s True Church: Rome is not the Church which Christ founded on a rock: Rome has fallen away and therefore Rome leads souls to perdition – recall the info about the Antichrist and a falling away prior to the Second Coming in 2 Thess 2. I’m taking a break.’
The Moderator returned from his break, listened to the idle chit-chat among the experts at the symposium, and then took command of the discussion.
Moderator - ‘What are you thinking Catholic Man?’Catholic Man - ‘If we accept for a moment the Protestant heresy that the Gospel is explained in the New Testament, not by the Pope in Rome, and if we accept the foul pestilential Protestant heresy that the Church of Rome has fallen away from the True Faith, and is not God’s True Church, and therefore Rome leads people to perdition, then, obviously, the most blatant example of Protestants trampling upon the Gospel is found in the Protestant tradition of embracing the rich and the covetous. To review the most elementary scriptures pertaining to the rich and the covetous - let’s begin with Luke 16. 19-31,
‘There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, desiring to be fed with crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom…’Luke 13. 5? It has Jesus saying,
‘I tell you…unless you repent you will all likewise perish.’
Matthew 25. 41-46,
‘Then He will also say to them on the left hand, “Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger and you did not take Me in; naked and you did not clothed Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.” Then they also will answer Him, saying “Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?” Then He will answer them, saying, “Assuredly I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.” And these shall go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.’
Luke 6. 24-5: ‘But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation. Woe to you who are full, for you shall hunger…’
Acts 4. 32 states,
‘Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common.’
Acts 2. 44-7,
‘Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need. So, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart, praising God and having favor with all the people. And God added to the church daily those who were being saved.’
St. Paul teaches in 2 Thess 2. 10 that those who refuse to work shouldn’t be given alms to allow him to eat. It’s true that we don’t read in the New Testament that equal sharing of the wealth is absolutely mandatory in the True Church. But scriptures such as Mark 12. 41-44 - the widow’s two mites - James 1. 9 - the rich man passes away - I Timothy 6. 10 - the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil - Matthew 19. 23 - easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God - Luke 16. 19-31 - parable of Lazarus and the rich man - Luke 3. 11 - John the Baptists likens the rich to a brood of vipers - I Corinthians 13 - one has nothing if one lacks charity - all point to the conclusion that in the True Church, the Church which Christ founded on a rock, the Church which leads souls to heaven, there is equal sharing of the wealth among those who work and among those unable to work. Your family will be led to destitution and hence destruction if your family is always giving its money away to the poor. The New Testament does not desire the destruction of your family. There is only one sensible conclusion - and anyone who is not deluded can see it! - in the True Church, in the Church which Christ founded on a rock, there is equal sharing of the wealth among those who work and among those who are unable to work. This Church which shares everything - recall Acts 2 and 4 - was no doubt charitable to non-Christians: it didn’t tell naked and hungry non-Christians and their children to drop dead and go to hell! The True Church extends charity to pagans but I don’t think the New Testament commands Christians to give an equal share of their wealth to both those who hate Christ and those who love Christ. There are no doubt many Protestant ministers who can understand that the scriptures tell us that there is equal sharing of the wealth among those who work in the True Church. Obviously if a person works 12 hours per day, and another works 6 hours, then the former should get twice as much as the latter. In any event, no doubt many priests and ministers can understand the fact that so many evils result due to money problems. Children don’t have guidance because their parents are always working. Children face homelessness because their parents can’t find work which pays enough to let them live in homes etc., etc. But in order for a priest or minister to convince his congregation that drastic changes are required he will need to convince them that drastic changes are required because their sect has fallen away from the True Faith, and therefore it leads souls to perdition. As long as a sect is getting people to heaven there is no great urgency to make changes to that sect. And, well, it is just not possible for a priest or a minister to remain a priest or a minister over a congregation if he te
lls that congregation and then they tell him in reply that he is a madman for thinking such a thing. It’s just not possible for a priest or a minister to convince his congregation, at least not under normal circumstances, that, a) their church has been leading souls to perdition because it has been corrupting the gospel by not practicing the equal sharing of the wealth among those who work, therefore, b) everyone has to start handing in all of their paychecks, and then an equitable distribution of funds will be made. Now the conditions described in Revelation 18. 1-24 prevail on earth, when famine is close at hand, or when famine is right on top of us, when economic collapse is crushing the marketplaces off earth, when the Gross National Product grinds downs more or less to zero, then a priest or a minister will find it easier to sell to people the doctrine that the New Testament teaches us that, in the True Church, there is equal sharing of the wealth among those who work. But, when the conditions described in Revelation 18. 1-24 do not prevail on earth, you are not going to be able to convince the