Qur'an And Science in Depth_This book go in deep study about the Qur'an and Science investigating the truthful of facts or claims.
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(Source: Louis Ginzberg, Legends of the Jews, [The Jewish Publication Society of America, Philadelphia, 1909], Vol. IV, Chapter V: Solomon)
79Solomon Was Standing For One Year After His Death
I wish I can keep going with more of funny stories good for kids but its endless so this is the last one will be in this book about Solomon fairytale stories.
Should I say; Once upon a time, there was a King who ruled a great and glorious nation he has a flying horse, and flying carpet can take 600,000 chairs, and he can move all his war equipment on it!
He has Jinns work for him,to dive and bring him gold and jewelry, from the deep sea, once he went to bath room and the Satan come to his wife after he clone the look of Solomon!
He the Satan told her to give the ring back to him as if he is Solomon the King,He wore it, and then he became the king. I think I better stop here or you guys might sleep and go back to old day when grandma was telling us same kinds of stories.
I am really amazed about the great imagination of the story make to come with such a story. But what I couldn't believe, that some one will put in a “holy book” a story of a man die standing and stay standing for one year after his death!
Qur'an 34:14 Yusuf Ali trans. “Then, when We decreed (Solomon's) death, nothing showed them his death except a little worm of the earth, which kept (slowly) gnawing away at his staff: so when he fell down, the Jinns saw plainly that if they had known the unseen, they would not have tarried in the humiliating Penalty (of their Task).”
So the story is simple he Solomon died standing and had his staff(stick) with him at the moment he died, so because of that he was standing for a year after, and no one notice that he is dead, including his wives, Jinns, minsters, solders, even his children's, till the worm ate his staff and he fall to ground floor?
The interpretation can be found in all Islamic books as, Tafsir Al-Quran AL-'Azem by Ibn kATIR V.6 p click here to read from Islamic site translation of Ibn Kathir.
Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs (And when We decreed death for Solomon, Solomon died and remained standing in his retreat for one year (nothing showed his death) the death of Solomon a woodworm (worm gnawed away his staff) and it is said: his short stick. when Solomon fell to the ground, the jinn and human beings saw clearly that they do not know the unseen, they would not have continued in their subservience serving Solomon after his death. People thought before this that the jinn knew the unseen but when they saw this they discover that they did not.
To see the Muslims translated text click here
what we learn from this is the flowing:
1. Allah made Solomon die standing.
2. His stick was the reason not fall down,because when the worm ate it(the stick) he fall to the ground.
3. Is it possible that some one stay standing for a year just because he is holding a stick?
4. And wasn't noticeable eventually to his wives, children's, officers ,minsters or even the Jinns? 5. If I hold a stick on my hand it might help me to balance only but its not what keep me standing specially its one stick so the body it self standing on both feet not the stick I am holding.
6. According to the interpretor, Allah wanted to show man kind that the Jinns do not know the unseen, but the fact this is have nothing to do with the unseen, because they can see him in-front of them, same time if he fall down after one year or one day it will not change any thing because a man who do not breath, talk, move, blink , he must be cold as a dead body, its very easy recognize that man is dead.
7. No one even did try to talk to him for one year? If you enter a room and there is a person there you know, and he don't respond to your words and he do not move don't we try to figure out what is wrong with him?
8. Its not a secret that after death all kind of God creations to a new stage, and in less than 48 hours dead body will smell so bad, after approximately two to three days bacteria are active and the body is swollen with gases and accompanying odours.
“Decomposition in the air is twice as fast as when the body is under water and four times as fast as underground.” http://www.memorialpages.co.uk/articles/decomposition.php
but yet Muslims claim their book is the book of science not fairytales!
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Muslims’ claim
80 ATOMIC ENERGY AND FISSION Allah splits the seed and kernel. He brings forth the living from the dead, and produces the dead out of the living. That is Allah, so how are you misguided? (Qur’an, 6:95)
The terms "seed" (al-habb) and "kernel" (an-nawa) in the above verse may indicate the splitting of the atom.
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My answer I wasn't going to answer this for it's actually too silly, but I will do it. Look at how they turn something very simple to be about ATOMIC ENERGY! What does this verse have to do with any of that? Honestly, this is insanity. All the verse is saying is:
1. Allah makes the seeds split and gives forth food to us. 2. Same as he made the dead alive, for the seeds look dead, but they're not. 3. Notice how the Muslims use the word may. What does may mean? Either it's saying that or it's not. They know they are making up something false so we have to live with maybe and may! “...verse may indicate the splitting of the atom.”
4. Maybe the Bible is speaking about Atomic Energy as we see in this verse:
Genesis 1:11 - KJV And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
Genesis 1:12 - KJV
And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Honestly, I think it’s a silly claim.
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Muslims’ claim
81 BONE LOSS IN OLD AGE
http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_105.html “And said, ‘My Lord, my bones have gone frail and my head is crowned with white, but in calling on You, My Lord, I have never been disappointed’.”
(Surah Maryam, 4)
The Arabic word “ wahana” in verse 4 of Surah Maryam means “relaxed, weakened or insufficient.” The use of this word in the context of aging and changes taking place in the bones is most wise. Bone scanning performed taking detailed measurements using modern technology makes it possible to image the disease known to the medical world as “osteoporosis,” or bone loss.
Bearing in mind that x-rays were only discovered in the 1890s, 1. It's not a secret that humans know they get weaker as they get older.
2. On top of that, Muslims miss the point that it’s not Allah talking there! It was Zachariah. Does that make Zachariah God?
3. The Bible is saying the same but we do not say it’s an amazing science.
Psalms 3:10 - KJV For my life is spent with grief, and my years with sighing: my strength faileth because of mine iniquity, and my bones are consumed.
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Muslims’ claim
82A RED ROSE IN THE SKY: THE ROSETTE NEBULA http://www.miraclesoftheQur’an.com/scientific_106.html
When the Heaven shall be cleft asunder, and become rose red, like stained leather. (Surat ar-Rahman, 37) The Arabic expression translated above as "become rose red, like stained leather" is "verdeten ke eddihani." This term compares an image appearing in the sky to a red rose. This description bears a close similarity to red celestial bodies with a plicate appearance, especially the "Rosette Nebula." I don’t think Muslims read their own words. If this claim is true it means that the Qur’an is false. Do you know why? Read again the verse given by Mr. Harun:
“When the Heaven shall be cleft asunder, and become rose red, like stained leather. (Surat ar-Rahman, 37).
Actually the Qur’an speaks about the cloud turning into red, not sta
rs and gas or stars. That is explained inside Ibn Kathir Qur’an 25: 25
A day when the heaven with the clouds will be rented asunder and the angels will be sent down, by his order (Allah).
This verse speaks about Judgment Day, which means it is something that will occur only on Judgment Day. Quoted from the interpretation of Ibn Kathir:
This demonstrates the measure of the terrors of the Mighty Day of Resurrection. And you can read it yourself from the Muslims translations and website in the following link:
www.qtafsir.com/index.php?
option=com_content&task=view&id=1517&Itemid=111
But in his article, he spoke about Nebula which already exists. From his words we quote “Nebula is the name given to cloud-like masses of gas in space. Before they become nebulae they are stars,”
We quote from the NASA Cat’s Eye Nebula
Three thousand light-years away, the Cat’s Eye Nebula, a dying star throws off shells of glowing gas. This image from the Hubble Space Telescope reveals the nebula to be one of the most complex planetary nebulae known. In fact, the features seen in the Cat’s Eye are so complex that astronomers suspect the bright central object may actually be a binary star system. The term planetary nebula is misleading; although these objects may appear round and planet-like in small telescopes, high resolution images reveal them to be stars surrounded by cocoons of gas blown off in the late stages of stellar evolution."
To see more of images or articles about it visit this site please. http://search.nasa.gov/search/search.jsp?nasaInclude=Nebula
From the Bible we quote the following in regards to Judgment Day: Acts 2:20 - KJV
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:"
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Muslims’ claim
83 THE SOLIDITY OF THE ATOM AND ELECTRON ORBITS
http://www.miraclesoftheQur’an.com/scientific_107.html “You will see the mountains you reckoned to be solid going past like clouds – the handwork of Allah Who gives to everything its solidity. He is aware of what you do.” (Surat an-Naml, 88)
The above verse may be a reference to the strength of the atom,. The verse may also be indicating the clouds of electrons around atomic nuclei, whose movement is likened to “mountains... going past like clouds.”
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My answer First of all I think Muhammad copying the book of Revelation. Revelation 6:14
“The sky was split apart like a scroll when it is
rolled up, and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.”
however again and again we quot from the Muslims “The above verse may be … and may also”????
The word Ta'hsab means “you think” in the present tense, which means when you look at it you see it as if it is fixed but the fact is that it’s moving. And actually, the one who made the claim forgot that he made different claim using the same verse from the same chapter. We will quote his own words, please keep this in mind.
"In one verse, we are informed that mountains are not motionless as they seem, but are in constant motion.” Surat an-Naml, chap. 88
“You will see the mountains you reckoned to be solid going past like clouds – the handwork of Allah Who gives to everything its solidity. He is aware of what you do.”
Let us read the end of his claim again. “It is impossible to understand the structure of the atom and establish this cloud-like appearance of electrons without such high-tech devices as electron microscopes.”
All that can be understood from this verse is that mountains will pass like a cloud! Imagine someone telling you that the tree will pass like the clouds and then he tries to convince you that it’s about the atom? How and where is the connection? The mountain is a word for one object which extreme huge so what this have to do with atom?
1. Look again at the claim and read it. You will see that it’s based on {The verse may be, The verse may also}. How can somebody try to present us scientific facts based on “may be” and “may also”?
2. Just because I do not like to repeat myself, I will show some verses in the Qur’an explaining exactly what this verse is talking about in the next claim. They have used the same verse for another claim too. I will save these verses to show you the full picture of the story.
3. I would like you to keep in mind the coming line, for I will need it to expose Mr. Harun with his own words.
“if a vase is shattered, only the atoms that make it up remain solid.” 4. The only thing we need to do is read the verse prior to this one in order to realize it’s about Judgment Day, not something that’s happening right now which proves the falseness of the claim.
Qur’an 27:87 And on the day [Judgment Day] when the trumpet shall be blown and scared is going to be whoever is in the skies or on the earth, except whom as Allah pleases, and all shall come with humble.
Which you might notice is something stolen from the Bible: Matthew 24:31
And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."
5. The verse is speaking about Judgment Day and Allah, as Muhammad stated: “you think these mountain will stay? But they will move cloud-like,” which means nothing will stay in Judgment Day. All of a sudden, it’s about “The rapid movement of electrons.”
We read Ibn Kathir’s interpretation which you can read yourself by following this link in the Muslims’ website. Interpretation of Ibn Kathir, Qur’an 27:88 They look like to you as if they are fixed, and as if they will stand as they are, but they will pass away as the passing away of the clouds, which means they will move away from their locations."
www.qtafsir.com/index.php?
option=com_content&task=view&id=2220&Itemid=83 The same is mentioned in:
Qur’an 52:9-10
"On the Day [Judgment Day] when the firmament trembles with a dreadful shaking, and the mountains will move away as it’s walking."
Qur’an 18:47 "And when the Day [Judgment Day] We shall cause the mountains to pass away, and you will see the earth as a flattened with no cover."
84One verse two translations, both made by Mr. Harun.
If someone translates the same verse, using different words in each translation, I see nothing wrong with it as long as they both give the same meaning. At the end, a translation is meant to give the most accurate meaning not the exact text. However in this case, we will see that Mr. Harun intentionally played with the same translation. Let us compare both.
When he talked about the atom and electron orbits he gave us the following translation which you can read here:
http://www.miraclesoftheQur’an.com/scientific_107.html
1STTRANSLATION “You will see the mountains you reckoned to be solid going past like clouds – the handwork of Allah Who gives to everything its solidity. He is aware of what you do.” (Surat an-Naml 27, 88)
But it’s a claim about the movement of mountains. The translation changed and again you can read it yourself from his website:
http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_26.html
2NDTRANSLATION
"You see the mountains you reckoned to be solid going past like clouds." (Qur’an, 27:88) The regular reader might not necessarily notice the important difference. In the 1sttranslation, Mr. Harun used “You will”. In the 2nd translation, he purposely took out the word will.
The difference is enormous. The reason he used “you will see” (1st translation) is because he wanted to make it sound like a discovery that will happen in the future; but in his claim concerning the movement of the earth, he wanted it to be as Allah presenting scientific facts about the movement of the earth as well as the movement of the mountain. Later on, we will prove his claim to also be false and incorrect.
Job 14:18 - KJV
But the mountain falls and crumbles away, and the
rock is removed from its place; Here we go, we have the same verse which Muhammad stole from the Bible. We just don’t see any Christians or Jews linking this verse to electrons and atoms. Right! This things only happen in Islam.
II Peter 3:10-13 - KJV
10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
If you look carefully at the last two verses, it will be clearer as to where Muhammad was getting his story. The fact is that after things got at the point of melting because of extreme heat, the earth will burn up and will be nothing but dust in the space. Notice that the believers in Christ get “a new heavens and a new earth”.
I will show you that Mr. Harun is not honest in his claims by not being consistent with his own words. Maybe he forgot what he posted on his site, or maybe it’s a group of liars working there, not just one!
Read with me the coming claim and you will see their contradictions.
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85 THE FUNCTION OF MOUNTAINS
http://www.harunyahya.com/en/Miracles-of-theQuran/27329/the-function-of-mountains
The Qur’an draws attention to a very important geological function of mountains:
We placed firmly embedded mountains on the earth, so it would not move under them… (Qur’an, 21:31) The verse states that mountains perform the function of preventing shocks in the Earth. This fact was not known by anyone at the time the Qur’an was revealed. It was, in fact, brought to light only recently, as a result of the findings of